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Quinky

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #180 on: Sunday 01-Dec-2019, 23:21* »

I'm not sure your Gender Equality thoughts (on this board and others) are wholly based on fairness.


I'm yet to meet anyone (feminists especially) who seem to have a clear view of what "gender equality" really is. The usual diatribe is "more women" and "more money for women". No substance, no reasoning, just repetition of the mantra.

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« Reply #181 on: Wednesday 04-Dec-2019, 09:18* »
I'm yet to meet anyone (feminists especially) who seem to have a clear view of what "gender equality" really is. The usual diatribe is "more women" and "more money for women". No substance, no reasoning, just repetition of the mantra.

Luckily no one has done any work to define this at all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_equality

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« Reply #182 on: Friday 06-Dec-2019, 09:41* »
Talking of tactical voting I shall nail my colours to the mast. I simply cannot support the essentially 2 party system we have here in the UK. We absolutely have to move to a more consensual form of politics with Proportional Representation. I normally look for a good solid Independent who understands and supports local issues and give them my support. However, because one must study the issues current at the time and really try to avoid voting along Presidential style politics for personalities, I shall be voting for BoJo. I voted Remain in the Referendum but this election is a single issue one about Brexit because the Establishment simply would not allow the voice of the people to be heard in the Leave result. I strongly believe that you cannot keep having another vote until you get your desired result so I will be voting BoJo to Leave to honour the result of the Referendum. Whether I will ever vote Tory again is another matter.

deadlyfrom5yardsout

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« Reply #183 on: Friday 06-Dec-2019, 09:42* »
 Oh, and if I hear one more person say that those who voted Leave did not know what they voted for I shall scream and scream until I am sick

deadlyfrom5yardsout

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« Reply #184 on: Wednesday 18-Dec-2019, 15:25* »
Told you!

Quinky

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« Reply #185 on: Sunday 22-Dec-2019, 15:54* »
Luckily no one has done any work to define this at all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_equality

And that doesn't disprove my point - I've never MET anyone who has a clear view other than mumbling about "equal numbers".

It's an interesting definition though - "the state of equal ease of access to resources and opportunities regardless of gender". This is perfectly reasonable and I don't know anyone who would disagree with it. But this won't sate the majority of so-called feminists, who want e.g. equal numbers of women on company boards. That's equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. Equal chances to achieve don't necessarily guarantee equal achievements.

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« Reply #186 on: Monday 17-Feb-2020, 13:31* »
I'm not sure Proportional Representation is particularly fair either, look atbthe recent Irish election. They still dont know the outcome & it will come down to horse trading & private deals. I'd rather have our system.

Didnt realise this thread was here!

Leave voter here & I know exactly what I voted for! Voted for Boris & the conservative majority. We simply need to sort out the mess of the last three & a half years. It has left quite a malaise which is going to take a while to recover from.

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« Reply #187 on: Friday 28-Feb-2020, 11:02* »
If we had proportional representation, we would still be in the mess like the May years of government.

Look at our neighbours in Europe. Spain cannot appoint a government, Germany has struggled to cobble together a working majority, Italy...well Italy is Italy!

At least with first past the post, we now have a government that can get on with moving this country into the future.

As a leave voter, I am delighted with what Johnson is doing. As a business owner that exports to the EU, I am not too worried. In the end, we will get a deal, I just wish we could cut out the wasted hours of political gamesmanship. Let's get a move on and get planning for the future.

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