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A222Quin

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 11:07 »
Yes it is an opportunity to really reorganise the way we do things and there is nothing like a deadline to make things happen. There is generally a resistance to change and a liking for the status quo but this is being forced on us and I remain very confident that we will make a good fist of it. Particularly as we can do it our way.

I wish I held your optimism. The lack of Political ability, a frankly irresponsible press and a group of people endlessly repeating slogans such as "out means out" etc etc means that I'm not that optimistic that the outcome will be as good as we hope.

It's disappointing for me that our involvement in the EU has ended this way. The blame is firmly routed on both sides - the likes of Juncker and Verholfstadt and many predecessors and the likes of Farage who are a divisive stain on the country and hark back to an era that barely existed and certainly isn't the reality any more.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 12:12 »
All of these Brexiteers moaning about the deal. Don't they realise Brexit means Brexit?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 12:49 »
Quite. My view is that this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. It is the beginning of a new self controlled era.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 15:28 »
Brexit? Is this a Rugby matter on this site? I think not. What else is going to be discussed the price of petrol etc!

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 18:56 »
This is the area for everything non rugby related. And although brexit might affect rugby, it makes more sense for it here than on the rugby message board.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 20:22 »
Brexit? Is this a Rugby matter on this site? I think not. What else is going to be discussed the price of petrol etc!

The clue is in the title of this part of the forum "Everything Non Rugby Related".

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 15-Nov-2018, 14:37 »
What a total mess the last 24 hours have been.  They've not even got to first base without falling apart.

I don't think it's right that there is one, but I think there will be a second referendum now.  There's no way out and there's no way through this.

Britain's had its mid-life crisis - made a mistake, got drunk, had a fling, got a stupid car and jacket and made a fool of itself amongst its friends and family.  Now get over it, grow up, apologise and go back to your wife and kids and make it work like a real grown up.


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Re: Brexit
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 15-Nov-2018, 19:38 »
Regardless of my views on it, hats off to Theresa May for fronting up to all those MP's wanting a soundbite for their own Constituency's ears.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 15-Nov-2018, 22:40 »
She is the "only real man" among them.

deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #39 on: Friday 16-Nov-2018, 09:47 »
So what is the sequence now? Is it put the deal to EU for approval then put it to the vote in our Parliament? Presumably a General Election if the deal is voted down here?

We don't even start the real Trade Deal negotiations till after March 2019 which is when you might see some splinters in the EU facade.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 08:45 »
Some splinters already! Spain want Gibraltar and France want fishing rights.....

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 22-Nov-2018, 21:55 »
My understanding was that it has to be approved by parliament here and also the EU.

Not looking good on either side.

Canít see it being accepted at home. So with no-deal off the table (that wonít get voted for either) where do we go from here?

A general election? Another referendum?

And then it needs accepting by the EU.

Remember...this is the easy bit. We havenít even started on the complex negotiations on the future relationship and trade deal. Thatíll take years.

Is it worth it? Absolutely not.

deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 25-Nov-2018, 13:13 »
So the EU have ratified the deal today. Now the finest brinkmanship is required to get it through our Parliament.

Interesting times!

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 25-Nov-2018, 19:41 »
Time for a few to "put their money where their mouths are", as you say, interesting times.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #44 on: Monday 26-Nov-2018, 18:39 »
I have watched the last two "debates" in Parliament featuring Mrs May. On both occasions she has spent literally hours fielding antagonistic questions from all corners. I came to realise that it was all just an exercise in allowing individual MP's a chance to put on record their opinion for the benefit of their Constituency Party.

Ultimately it looks like the gambit will be, back the deal on the table because the alternative is unacceptable....

 

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