+- +-

+-Newcomers Start Here

+-Harlequins/Rugby Links


+-Articles


Author Topic: Brexit  (Read 7485 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Quinky

  • Lions Captain
  • ******
  • Posts: 3219
Re: Brexit
« Reply #150 on: Monday 12-Aug-2019, 13:28* »
That’s interesting. Actually I thought May’s mistake was trying too hard to appease the right wing of her party and she therefore put up these incompatible and unworkable red lines. She was fixated by one issue (immigration), which in some ways is the easiest one to solve and could have been sorted within the EU.

I think if she’d been a bit smarter, and a bit more moderate, the withdrawal agreement would have got through.

Lurching to one side or another isn’t going to heal the division. Compromise and understanding is. Remainers have needed to accept the result and push, not for Remain, but for a future relationship out of the EU that would retain what they wanted and were concerned about losing outside of the EU. It can be done. Leavers need to accept that a huge % of the country is massively upset about this decision and feel that their rights, opportunities and prosperity have been taken away from them unfairly. Again, this can be dealt with, with smart leadership and intelligent thinking.

Reactionary belligerence is not going to solve this. Boris is not going to solve this. He’s a national embarrassment and the cabinet he’s assembled is quite frankly scary. We need moderate, sensible, pragmatic compromise.

The way this bunch are going we will end up with a failing economy, troubles followed by a united ireland and an independent scotland. Will anyone be happy with this?



I fundamentally disagree on much of what you are saying here. I don't quite how the "issue of immigration" could have been easily sorted within the EU. It's not a simple issue, and whilst there is freedom of movement (in and out) it's even harder to control. I also think you take a very simplistic view of the Withdrawal Agreement, and you overlook the fact that whatever she offered up to Parliament would have been rejected by some MPs.

Saying that "Remainers have needed to accept the result" sounds wonderful, but for a huge number that just won't happen until the deal is done. When you have elected politicians whose stated aim is to overturn the result of the referendum, regardless of the voting of their electorate, you have a problem. Those people will try to thwart any deal, by whatever means possible; and to say that a huge % of the country is massively upset, how do you think the even huger % feel when they actually WON the referendum??!!

I don't know why you're embarrassed about Boris - I'm certainly not. I believe he's exactly what the country need, and is already converting people with strong rhetoric. He'll need to deliver, and thet will take time - which undoubtedly he won't be given by those who are dead set against him - but so far he's talking a good talk and has chosen a cabinet that has the determination to deliver what's expected of them.

Personally I'd say there are many more things that the country should be embarrassed about - the current opposition, the way they treat visiting dignitaries, the inconsistency in how they treat others, the treatment of returning jihadis, the appalling way in which violent crime is addressed, our pathetic justice system, the level of hypocrisy from elected representatives (on all sides), the UK media and their blatant bias... I could go on, it's a long list, and seemingly growing.

 

+-User

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 

Login with your social network

Forgot your password?

+-Site Statistics

Members
Total Members: 1165
Latest: LewesianQuin
New This Month: 3
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 120750
Total Topics: 6426
Most Online Today: 295
Most Online Ever: 4089
(Sunday 10-Oct-2021, 12:56*)
Users Online
Members: 32
Guests: 258
Total: 290