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alexfromlondon

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #45 on: Monday 26-Nov-2018, 20:03 »
Thatís her ****. Itíll probably win through shear incompetence and apathy, as no-one will be able to come up with anything better. Itís this or remain and I think there will be one last hard push for a referundum or to call it off.

In all honesty itís a bit of a travesty how badly itís gone. But they were warned.  Virtually no one is standing up and saying this is a good thing. Weird times.

We really are terrible neighbours. Europe must be sick to death of us.

alexfromlondon

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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 05-Dec-2018, 12:59 »
Been watching the news with interest these last couple of days.

Legal advice has now been published and the Tories are really in disgrace.  It's a very, very poor show to be held in contempt of parliament.

My interpretation is, still that you cannot have a hard Brexit without breaking up the UK because of NI.  If that happens Scotland will become independent in due course.  Is it worth it?

I still think the only solution if Brexit is to be implemented in an EEA/EFTA option like Norway.  There is simply no other way through.  The top brass don't want that as it's perceived to be the worst of both worlds
 (even though it isn't).  Are we ambitious and flexible enough for this compromise?

Some have been warning of this for some time...

Any thoughts?

BedfordshireBoy

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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 05-Dec-2018, 21:58 »
My head hurts!


deadlyfrom5yardsout

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« Reply #48 on: Friday 07-Dec-2018, 09:49 »
Well the way I see it, the Meaningful Vote next Tuesday is not the end of it. It is not even the beginning of the end etc..

Labour want a General Election, SNP & Plaid Cymru want Independence, Green Party who knows, DUP want their cake and eat it, Lib Dems are currently irrelevant and there is schism in the Tory Party. We don't handle change very well.....

BedfordshireBoy

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« Reply #49 on: Friday 07-Dec-2018, 12:07 »
Common themyis of course that they are all politicians and oh interested in their own agendas, Brexit per we is almost irrelevant.

Fearless Fred

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« Reply #50 on: Friday 07-Dec-2018, 16:07 »

I still think the only solution if Brexit is to be implemented in an EEA/EFTA option like Norway.  There is simply no other way through.  The top brass don't want that as it's perceived to be the worst of both worlds
 (even though it isn't).  Are we ambitious and flexible enough for this compromise?

Some have been warning of this for some time...

Any thoughts?

That's doubtful to say the least. Norway is sounding like they'd block that...

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deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #51 on: Friday 07-Dec-2018, 22:15 »

alexfromlondon

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« Reply #52 on: Friday 14-Dec-2018, 12:51 »
Good to see everything is still going so well!!

BedfordshireBoy

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« Reply #53 on: Friday 14-Dec-2018, 23:01 »
I get the distinct feeling that the public and the politicians are poles apart on this topic at the moment.

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« Reply #54 on: Saturday 15-Dec-2018, 11:05 »
As I understand it, this could go several different ways. What is the point at which the EU cave in?

alexfromlondon

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« Reply #55 on: Monday 17-Dec-2018, 19:21 »
Project reality - this from Phillip Hammond:

ďA responsible government must prepare for all scenarios, which is why I have made more than £4.2bn available for EU exit planning since 2016. In the coming days, @hmtreasury will allocate a further £2bn of that money to government departments to bolster #Brexit preparations.Ē

Worth it?

When do the ďdividendsĒ come?

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« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 10:10 »
I suppose the dividends are self determination, self rule and independence to trade anywhere. They are coming at quite a cost though. I do think the arbitrary 2 years to negotiate with the EU after we crash out is not enough time though.

BedfordshireBoy

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« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 11:11 »
I suppose the dividends are self determination, self rule and independence to trade anywhere. They are coming at quite a cost though. I do think the arbitrary 2 years to negotiate with the EU after we crash out is not enough time though.

Seem to recall the Brexiteers propaganda machine were telling us negotiating trade deals should take a matter of a few weeks.

alexfromlondon

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« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 12:51 »
ďFreedom to tradeĒ ?

Is this not one of the big Brexit myths that has been busted? We already globally trade under eu negotiated deals. Brexit will restrict our global opportunities whilst we deal with the uncertainty as to what extent these deals may be replaced?

alexfromlondon

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« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 13:00 »
IMO itís time Labour grew up and opposed. Was pleased to hear there was talk of no confidence going ahead but they seem to have messed that up, which is very much their way.

This is probably as good as it gets. Take it or leave it?

 

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