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Bolly-Quin

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Equality Issues
« on: Saturday 15-Jun-2019, 14:55* »
Should you wish to peruse Giageo's equality credentials...

https://www.diageo.com/PR1346/aws/media/7139/261118-gender-pay-report-final.pdf

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Quinten Poulsen

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15-Jun-2019, 15:49* »

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15-Jun-2019, 19:12* »
If it helps, they have prioritised not referring to women as fat Belfast sluts that they can spitroast ahead of parity of remuneration.

Bolly-Quin

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17-Jun-2019, 17:29* »
Please don't trigger me.

What does “trigger me” mean? At least in this context!

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17-Jun-2019, 17:35* »
The phrase 'gender pay gap' makes me all snowflakey.

Bolly-Quin

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17-Jun-2019, 17:44* »
Look where the “missile gap” got us...

Brown Bottle

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18-Jun-2019, 13:07* »
Well so is Diageo.

Yeah, but I didn't know anything about them. :)

Quinky

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22-Jun-2019, 07:26* »
The phrase 'gender pay gap' makes me all snowflakey.

A spurious belief based upon extrapolation from limited data. I recently discussed the fabled gender pay gap with a female journalist. I am now more convinced than ever that journalism is a euphemism for churning out and rehashing whatever right-on tosh is doing the rounds at the moment.

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22-Jun-2019, 08:10* »
A spurious belief based upon extrapolation from limited data.

So off topic that I won’t go into it. But no

Quinky

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24-Jun-2019, 20:22* »
So off topic that I won’t go into it. But no

But yes. A set of conclusions based upon salary and gender, failing to acknowledge that there may be other factors involved in deciding remuneration. Seems pretty flawed to me.

So yes.

deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 09:42* »
Is there anybody else in that phone box with you Shrinky?

Quinky

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 11:58* »
Is there anybody else in that phone box with you Shrinky?

That's no phone box, that's my office! All of the bigger offices went to women, in the name of equality.
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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 13:20* »
But yes. A set of conclusions based upon salary and gender, failing to acknowledge that there may be other factors involved in deciding remuneration. Seems pretty flawed to me.

So yes.

OK I’ll do this.

The gender pay gap (for those who don’t know) is calculated as the average paid to a man in the business compared with the average paid to a woman.

There are therefore two ways the gap can occur: men paid more for the same role or more men in more senior roles. There is plenty of evidence that both have historically occurred - hence the desire for businesses to publish their pay gap.

The result is that businesses (certainly in my industry) are looking to promote more women into senior roles. Why is that not a good thing?

Out of interest, which other factors do you feel should be considered before remuneration get people doing the same role?

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Re: Equality Issues
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 17:54* »
Brave of you to try to engage.

Quinky

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 18:28* »
OK I’ll do this.

The gender pay gap (for those who don’t know) is calculated as the average paid to a man in the business compared with the average paid to a woman.

There are therefore two ways the gap can occur: men paid more for the same role or more men in more senior roles. There is plenty of evidence that both have historically occurred - hence the desire for businesses to publish their pay gap.

The result is that businesses (certainly in my industry) are looking to promote more women into senior roles. Why is that not a good thing?

Out of interest, which other factors do you feel should be considered before remuneration get people doing the same role?

Oh let's see... Experience, ability, potential, proven results, aptitude, qualifications...

Tell me, how does being female make anyone necessarily the best person for a job?

The gender pay gap is based upon salary and gender, nothing else. In the real world, there are other factors taken into account when calculating remuneration.

But if you want to be right on and PC, don't complain if you're passed over for a promotion, in favour of a less capable female. Got to keep those numbers up, eh?

 

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