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Re: Virus Discussions
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 16-Apr-2020, 18:20* »
interesting arguments, Well already we have lost out on PPE from the EU that has been distributed which I can find the link if you would like? The NHS has been chronically underfunded for 10 years and now it’s ok because we clap them? Anyway I am happy to wait until after this but it’s looking like UK will have the highest European death tolls.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16-Apr-2020, 18:50* »
interesting arguments, Well already we have lost out on PPE from the EU that has been distributed which I can find the link if you would like? The NHS has been chronically underfunded for 10 years and now it’s ok because we clap them? Anyway I am happy to wait until after this but it’s looking like UK will have the highest European death tolls.

The NHS has been financially fraught for longer than that. They're hamstrung by PFI debt, the servicing of which is crippling.

If you're suggesting the EU withhold PPE from the UK, maybe you should look at countries like Italy, who received an apology from the EU this week - for not supporting them during the pandemic. As for the PPE shortage, well that's known to be a global issue. And of course there are EU countries who did manage to source PPE from China - but had to return it as it was substandard.

Death tolls are a moot point. The disparity i reporting muddys the waters somewhat. In the UK, we don't yet know how many people have died from the virus. That requires post mortems, which I believe are currently suspended. But we'll find out, eventually.

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16-Apr-2020, 19:44* »
There are people in the world who think that if you need, say 5000 more ventilators, then you walk into a ventilator shop and just but them and they overnight deliver them to all the hospitals. They think that the only thing stopping this from happening is an inept government.
My oldest friend works for the NHS. He is an accountant, ie not front line.
His current job is taking Chinese PPE equipment apart and adding more parts to it to make it usable. At his hospital, they have plenty of PPE, but until the accountants repair it, then there is a shortage.
Hence, you always need to look beyond the news headlines.
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Re: Virus Discussions
« Reply #18 on: Monday 18-Jan-2021, 10:18* »
Well the vaccine roll out has started, my old man has had his already, will this signal the return to some normality? Maybe we'll all be able to watch a live game of rugby some day!

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 29-Jan-2021, 00:47* »
Germany is a federation.  Comparing the UK to Germany (or New Zealand) is pointless as you are not comparing applies with apples.  It would be far easier to control this outbreak is we were a despotic dictatorship run by our own Kim Il-DOK with closed borders.  But we aren't.

Er, are you sure? We're being run (down) by Bor-Is J-Son and although not a despotic dictator, is trying to emulate one.
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« Reply #20 on: Friday 29-Jan-2021, 00:49* »

As always UK arrogance has led to a lot of deaths.  Also if EU get a vaccine we will not be seeing it! Shambles

This was the point where I decided not to waste my time reading anything you post.

Umm - its not really working out the way we all wanted it to, is it..

 

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