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PhilQuin2

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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 09:32* »
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..It’s not an exaggeration to say that Smith is already the second best fly half Quins have had in the pro era...

- You'd place Marcus ahead of Andrew Mehrtens (-already)?
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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 09:35* »
- You'd place Marcus ahead of Andrew Mehrtens (-already)?

I would. Mehrtens was great but was past his prime when he arrived at The Stoop. Marcus still has so much development in him but is already one of the best fly halves in the Prem. Quite a feat for a 20-year-old.
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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 09:58* »
Quite a pair of feet actually.

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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 11:00* »
Mehrtens’ spirals were a thing of beauty though. No safe end over end for him.
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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 11:20* »
I would. Mehrtens was great but was past his prime when he arrived at The Stoop. Marcus still has so much development in him but is already one of the best fly halves in the Prem. Quite a feat for a 20-year-old.

Yeah, I think Marcus is simply a better player based on their respective time at Quins. I always thought Mehrts was a bit over-rated, although still a very good player for us.
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PhilQuin2

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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 15:48* »
 Yes, fair point. Plus I've heard it said that Mehrtens  --how shall I put this--  was 'rarely central to defensive strategies' even in his All Blacks pomp, whereas from what I've seen so far, Marcus is already a little more, er, robust in the line

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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 16:14* »
Yes, fair point. Plus I've heard it said that Mehrtens  --how shall I put this--  was 'rarely central to defensive strategies' even in his All Blacks pomp, whereas from what I've seen so far, Marcus is already a little more, er, robust in the line

This has always impressed me so much re Marcus. Given his stature, it would be so easy for him to shirk responsibility and for us to design a system whereby he becomes a winger or full back in defence and everyone else shifts in one. But he doesn't. He's got a lot of Jonny in him defensively - and (touch wood) without the injury curse it seems! And then, of course, in attack he's got a full armoury of tricks at his disposal. Sky's the limit.

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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 16:33* »
Sorry to disagree Marcus still has some way to go. When Danny is not on the pitch it all becomes a bit headless. I am sure he will get there but in my opinion some way to go yet.

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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 17:07* »
Oh yeah, by no means the finished article - but I was talking about his potential really. The box of tricks is all there - just a case of honing his decision making and that only comes with more time on the pitch.

I stand by my statement that he's already one of the best 10s in the Prem though. And I think in time he can become as consistently influential as the likes of Cipriani (you could argue he already trumps Cips defensively).

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Re: 11th Signing
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 08-May-2019, 17:56* »
Marcus’s work rate is relentless but that’s at times part of his problem - he needs to step back and be a bit more cerebral, pick his moments, keep a cooler head and assess the state of the game. Not dissimilar to Farrell, except it’s down to youthful enthusiasm and energy rather than hotheadedness. No doubt he’ll get there but I echo the previous comment, Danny at 9 runs everything for us and that is where the team performs best, but is therefore so heavily reliant. It also may have somewhat hampered Marcus’s development this season. I’d like to see Gustard challenge him to run the back line next season, not least given the rumoured A List fly-half signing (Anscombe, Cipriani, Barrett) appears not to be happening. If that in turn means he gets slightly less stuck in defensively, I would have no issue with that.

 

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