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Author Topic: Terrible 2nd half defence against relegation fodder (better?)  (Read 3491 times)

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ACQuins

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 02:12* »
I actually thought in the air, Gabs was absolutely fine. It was just when he was defending one on one against a big chap, e.g. Heam, that he struggled.

One of the things that annoyed the stats side of me is that we had absolutely no handling errors the entire match until Ward came on, and then we ended up on 2 - both by Ward.

Apart from that, our attack was absolutely clinical, but the defence did get the blood pressure up a bit.
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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 07:25* »
Strange things happen in high scoring games especially when the game appeared won so early on.

Just compare and contrast to the away game at Worcester earlier in the season. I know which I’d prefer.

There’s probably stuff to learn from the game as always, but I’d say the result really wasn’t ever in doubt!

Let’s try and enjoy this position and maybe perhaps we can finally let the ghost of relegation go this year....Surely not going to happen now (jeez I don’t want to jinx it!)?
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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 07:36* »
3rd in the table winning with bonus points and some still whine wow just wow

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 08:10* »
I like this forum - lots of people add really incisive comments. This, however, is embarrassing clickbate. ‘Abysmal’?  Watch another team Bulcher. Join another forum.

Lots of great rugby. Yes defence was weak in second half especially, but so much to have enjoyed yesterday afternoon. Celebrate that.

I have no idea why people love to revel in negativity. 

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 08:18* »
For those of us unable to be there, did anyone stand out as particularly good or bad? Ward has been mentioned a few times I can see.

Ward was appalling.

Dombrandt good carries, Robshaw looked like he just needs a bit more game time, Care, Marchant, Earle v good. Gabs great going forward but really is bad going back. He can’t appear to tackle - seems to try to arm fend people, maybe he’s trying to rip the ball every tome? Either way it doesn’t work.

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 08:24* »
3rd in the table winning with bonus points and some still whine wow just wow

“Just wow” - really? I doubt you’re 21 and this ain’t social media.

We lost the second half to a poor team and let them score 33 points. Show me another top 4 side that did that yesterday.

Saints put 67 over Sale, who scored 17.
Bath beat Newcastle 30-13.

No second half foot off the pedal for them.

So I may have been a bit drunk when I chose the word abysmal but spare me the idea that there’s nothing to criticise.


« Last Edit: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 08:35* by Blucherquin »

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 08:34* »
I like this forum - lots of people add really incisive comments. This, however, is embarrassing clickbate. ‘Abysmal’?  Watch another team Bulcher. Join another forum.

Lots of great rugby. Yes defence was weak in second half especially, but so much to have enjoyed yesterday afternoon. Celebrate that.

I have no idea why people love to revel in negativity.


Isn’t this confused.

If it’s click bait (which it clearly is) then you’ve just responded to it, so your high horse has bolted.

You go watch another team or post somewhere else - don’t be so bloody rude.

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 08:58* »
Isn’t this confused.

If it’s click bait (which it clearly is) then you’ve just responded to it, so your high horse has bolted.

You go watch another team or post somewhere else - don’t be so bloody rude.

Blucherquin - THE KEYBOARD WARRIOR STILL HIDING BEHIND A SCREEN!

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Re: Abysmal afternoon against relegation fodder
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 17-Feb-2019, 09:27* »
Blucherquin - THE KEYBOARD WARRIOR STILL HIDING BEHIND A SCREEN!

I’m confused. I asked someone not to be rude and repeated their words back to them. That makes him the “keyboard warrior” doesn’t it?

You coventiently didn’t quote or didn’t read the full post which told me I should go and support another team or post on another forum because I found our second half performance was awful.
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Since people are getting angry because people disagree with them, let me try another tack here.

This was a victory during the Gustard era in which we are building what looks like a great side and have had an improving defence - all be it with some continuing examples of poor defence right up until the Exeter win.

Yesterday’s win felt far more like a win from the previous two years when we’d turn on the attack and manage a rare win - that was papering over all the issues and made those of us who weren’t anti JK think “maybe.”

If that win had come in the JK era I doubt I’d be alone in being very concerned at our defensive performance.

It went notably backwards yesterday from where it has been recently - and a team better than Worcs would have beaten us.

Yesterday’s results:

Saints 67 Sale 17
Bath 30 Newcastle 13

In that context I’m concerned.

Bears will be a tougher prospect and Glos even more so - and these games will define our season.

Decent wins and it’s the playoffs - but defend like that second half (which we lost) and it won’t.

So yes, I’m happy we won - but no, I don’t think it was great.

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Agreed it’s wasnt great, it’s was a good win against a side we have struggled against
But it wasn’t abysmal, had we been beaten after building such a good lead that would have been
It also gave us 3rd place back
Need to improve defence that’s for sure,


But let’s be honest at the end of last season had anyone said we would be 3rd after 13 rounds I don’t think anyone would have been taken seriously

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Sounds silly to say but we suffered for the fast start. Almost victims of our own success.  Game was done and dusted after 20 mins.  After that we took our foot off the gas.  Taking that one way, we had plenty in the tank and would have stepped it up if needed.  Taking it the other way, I expect PG to be less than happy that we did no go for the 80 and beast them.  Despite the win, I can see him taking issue with that, so I get where BQ is coming from.  Saints played very well and did not let up.  Baths game was a bit more of a battle so I don't think they really had the chance to take their foot off the gas.  Going forward, this could be a blessing in disguise as it gives PG a point to refer to.  Yes we are doing well but lets not forget how we lost it a little against Worcs and let our defence drop.   About keeping standards up.  That is what will get PG
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Agreed it’s wasnt great, it’s was a good win against a side we have struggled against
But it wasn’t abysmal, had we been beaten after building such a good lead that would have been
It also gave us 3rd place back
Need to improve defence that’s for sure,


But let’s be honest at the end of last season had anyone said we would be 3rd after 13 rounds I don’t think anyone would have been taken seriously

I did point out I was pissed and abysmal was the wrong word.

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I did point out I was pissed and abysmal was the wrong word.

Ah Bless!

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Stats have Ibitoye making 5 tackles and missing 1. Brown made 3 missed 3.

 

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