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marlowish

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 09:41* »
I cannot see how anyone think we will not be involved in relegation.

If we lose to Briz we are in trouble - if we play like we did last week we will struggle to beat anyone
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 09:45* »
very true, but we played all 80 minutes and were close to catching them last week. I see a different spirit in the team from the end of last season.
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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 09:51* »
I cannot see how anyone think we will not be involved in relegation.

If we lose to Briz we are in trouble - if we play like we did last week we will struggle to beat anyone

Well I don't think we will - our defence showed clear signs of improvement in the first two games, we had a massive screw up in the first 40 mins at the weekend.

We've got some players who are really stepping up -- Morris, Tapuai, Lasike, Chisholm, Bothma, Elia, Lang, etc.

And we've got more to come back from injury.

Team spirit clearly changed -- we'd never have fought back last season.

Change takes time but you can see how the side can be good. That hasn't been clear for three years.
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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 11:07* »
That different spirit we've seen already appears to be on the wane. Sure they fought hard for the last 10 minutes but they did that many times last season. The game against Bath was virtually identical to last season's typical game - play like jessies, defend pathetically, concede a stack of tries, then fight back when it's too late and the opposition have taken their foot off the gas.

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 14:02* »
Not sure what Wallace has done to be first choiuce really.

Agree though that it would be good to see Lang get a start, maybe Mulchrone too. I'd probably swap Walker for Ibitoye too.

We're crying out for a decent second row partnership. I've been pretty underwhelmed by Symons so far, but very early doors.

Lambert really looked like he was struggling on Saturday. I love the guy but think time is catching up with him, so it'd be good to get Boyce back.

I'm not sure who I'd have in the back row. Robshaw and Chisholm, but then no-one is making a great case for themselves. It would be so good if Clifford could come back, stay fit and regain his old form

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 14:19* »
Not sure what Wallace has done to be first choiuce really.

Agree though that it would be good to see Lang get a start, maybe Mulchrone too. I'd probably swap Walker for Ibitoye too.

We're crying out for a decent second row partnership. I've been pretty underwhelmed by Symons so far, but very early doors.

Lambert really looked like he was struggling on Saturday. I love the guy but think time is catching up with him, so it'd be good to get Boyce back.

I'm not sure who I'd have in the back row. Robshaw and Chisholm, but then no-one is making a great case for themselves. It would be so good if Clifford could come back, stay fit and regain his old form

Lambert has had a very bad start to the season, mullered two weeks in a row and hauled off on Saturday - we won the scrum once Joe was on.

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 16:50* »
Yes, Mark is struggling I think.

Wallace picks up a couple of turnovers but is otherwise pretty ineffectual. His attempted tack for Fiji Joe's try was woeful.

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 17:07* »
I think the attitude has been good and defence tons better , my main area of concern was that both Saints and Bath hit hard down Charlie Walkers channel . Marcus bailed him out a couple of times against Saints and Wallace and Marchant likewise last weekend .

He seems exposed in defence , for all his good work ball in hand

Mike Brown covered the wing well against Sale and Earle looks fine on the other side , but with MB out Im not sure who is more solid ?

Ibitoye is the obvious choice but Im not convinced his defence is great , Visser and Alofa haven't troubled the selectors .. I wonder if Semi Kunatani could do a job there ?

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 17:19* »
Need to sort our line out as well

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 17:54* »
I think the attitude has been good and defence tons better , my main area of concern was that both Saints and Bath hit hard down Charlie Walkers channel . Marcus bailed him out a couple of times against Saints and Wallace and Marchant likewise last weekend .

He seems exposed in defence , for all his good work ball in hand

Mike Brown covered the wing well against Sale and Earle looks fine on the other side , but with MB out Im not sure who is more solid ?

Ibitoye is the obvious choice but Im not convinced his defence is great , Visser and Alofa haven't troubled the selectors .. I wonder if Semi Kunatani could do a job there ?

While Walker was off, Marchant covered the wing and did a reasonable job! I think the issue is what sort of winger partnership do we want? Gussie seems to prefer the Eddie Jones style of one out&out speedster, and a heavier, power runner on the other side (Walker & Earle on Saturday). Visser & Earle are too similar if that is what we're going for. Ibitoye has the extra speed, but isn't an automatic pick for First XV games.
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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 18:04* »
What about Semi, hes a winger as well!!!!!

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 21:14* »
The point of my post was to look at the results from a statistic perspective.

I wish Gustard every success. 'Balls on bags' was his highly publicised coaching innovation but balls are now needed from him to get results in any way he can.

Unfortunately for Gustard he starts from a low base and time is not on his side. He does not have a season or two to find a successful formula - good results must come quickly.

If Quins are to finish in the top six they need to win 9 out 11 home games and must start winning away games against teams that finished last season in the 6 to 11 positions.

Sale was a good start but loses to Saints and Bath do not bode well.

While Blucherquin may think it 'silly' to interpret a loss to Brizz early in the season as making Quins relegation fodder - regrettably it does. Perhaps he, or anyone else, can suggest where the away wins will come from if Quins cannot win away against the promoted team or Northampton?

Having now lost to Bath at home it also means Quins must find a replacement home win against Sarries or Exeter to make up lost ground.

As I said objectively back in August, we will have a very good idea of Quins fate this season by the end of October given the way the fixture list falls.

 





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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 18-Sep-2018, 22:57* »
That first linked article talks a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Balls on Bags
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 07:48* »
I canít say I expected a finish in the top 6 but the Bath game was a source for irritation and slight worry. A performance against Bristol is needed but Iím not pushing the panic alarm after 3 games.

 

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