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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 00:05* »
These pools are skewed by people giving players 5 out of 5 in games like this.

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 10:50* »
Que? Somebody can have a fine individual performance in a mis-firing team?

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 11:05* »
Who had an outstanding game against Bath?

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 12:08* »
No what I mean is it is a matter of opinion that someone thinks an individual had a good game. Erroneous in your view or not.

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 12:37* »
I've cleaned that up a bit. As deadly says, I can't be sure every "5" is just someone taking liberties, but there were a number of duplicates there that I could remove. Initially I thought it was genuine mistakes where people submitted the same form, but the timing between some of them shows it's not that innocent.

I could force people to use a gmail account to use this, and then they'd only be allowed one submission per account, but I don't really want to go that far.


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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 13:55* »
I'm not talking about a good game Deadly. 5/5 must surely mean outstanding or similar. Players who have outstanding games are usually pretty obvious.

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 14:46* »
In your opinion

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 15:31* »
Why would posters want to skew the results. That really is pretty sad.

I never used to know if my form had been submitted, so in the early games of last season I suspect I might have submitted the same form twice, but that would be obvious from the timing.

The want to deliberately give a player a higher or lower average is pretty weird. Then again all you have to do is look at some of the twitter fan pages and you'll see there are some interesting people supporting Quins. One Charlie Walker fan account tweeted him chastising him (jokingly) for not remembering her birthday. Bizarre

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 16:05* »
I think there's a potential problem with how voters perceive the nature of the poll. For instance, does everyone start at 3 and have their performance rated against their own ability or is there some notional yardstick where 3 is an average for a premiership player in that position, so Robshaw may start as a 4 whereas Lambert may start as a 2 and then get rated up or down from there.

DOK, perhaps you should get voters to rate a player's ability from, say, 1 to 3, then rate their performance out 5. You could then calculate their adjusted performance rating from the natural logarithm of the square of the performance divided by the natural logarithm of the square of their ability. This may give a more accurate reflection of whether someone played like a donkey. Or not
« Last Edit: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 19:54* by Brown Bottle »

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 16:15* »
What'd he say?
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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 19:11* »
In your opinion

Yep and I'd be happy to debate anyone who thinks any of our players were outstanding on Saturday and find out what they've based their opinion on.

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19-Sep-2018, 19:18* »
Fair enough. Didn't vote myself, so no debate from this quarter.

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20-Sep-2018, 10:33* »

This is the rough guide I use.

1. Poor
2. Below Average
3. Average   
4  Above average
5  Some excellent work .

 Everyone that crosses the whitewash starts as a 3 and I mark them up or down from there .

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Re: Bath Game Player Survey
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20-Sep-2018, 12:05* »
I suspect that in the case of some players a 3 means "I didn't notice him".
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