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DOK

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07-Dec-2019, 18:30* »
Well he is right isn't he? Saracens managed to cheat the salary cap season after season after season with absolute ease.
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Quaking Quin

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07-Dec-2019, 18:32* »
Not another Saracens apologist?

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07-Dec-2019, 21:40* »
Not another Saracens apologist?

No - not another Saracens apologist

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08-Dec-2019, 09:28* »
Interesting to hear a money man's thoughts. Good for him if he can afford it.

Can't help thinking that we should deregulate the whole system and see what floats to the top, maybe with the proviso that sugar daddy's can't invest more than a certain amount or make more than an agreed amount of losses.?

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08-Dec-2019, 13:40* »
What would be the advantage of de-regulation? Saracens, Bath go to the top. Everyone else struggles to keep up, some teams go to the wall. Their replacements would be from the RFU Championship, so even less likely to challenge for anything. With no meaningful competition the fans drift away and then what have you got? The chance to watch 4 teams stuffed with talent play each other over and over? A table that doesn't change positions throughout the year?
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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08-Dec-2019, 15:45* »
Interesting to hear a money man's thoughts. Good for him if he can afford it.

Can't help thinking that we should deregulate the whole system and see what floats to the top, maybe with the proviso that sugar daddy's can't invest more than a certain amount or make more than an agreed amount of losses.?
yeah, makes you wonder why they never tried that in the first place.

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09-Dec-2019, 10:26* »
Yes and the fans vote with their (bored) feet and the rich guys start dropping away. Or they form a Euro/Southern Hemisphere Super League and the fans start dropping away because they rarely get to Away games.

Essentially, I think it would ultimately sort itself out but I guess its whether you are bothered by Quins not being at the top table for a while.

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09-Dec-2019, 10:35* »
Yes and the fans vote with their (bored) feet and the rich guys start dropping away. Or they form a Euro/Southern Hemisphere Super League and the fans start dropping away because they rarely get to Away games.

Essentially, I think it would ultimately sort itself out but I guess its whether you are bothered by Quins not being at the top table for a while.

Personally I just want Quins to be in a non-corrupt table.
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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09-Dec-2019, 14:22* »
Yes and the fans vote with their (bored) feet and the rich guys start dropping away. Or they form a Euro/Southern Hemisphere Super League and the fans start dropping away because they rarely get to Away games.

Essentially, I think it would ultimately sort itself out but I guess its whether you are bothered by Quins not being at the top table for a while.

Oh, go on then. At what point does this dystopia "sort itself out"?

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09-Dec-2019, 15:14* »
Oh, go on then. At what point does this dystopia "sort itself out"?

I think that deadly is an advocate of the free market, and we know how well that goes.

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 10-Dec-2019, 09:18* »
It is true that I am not a great believer in artificial constraints, controls and regulations because the same cunning abilities that make someone succesful in a free market make them equally as sucessful in finding a way around the rules. We have a finite audience for Rugby which can only be divvied up in so many ways so, yes, I do believe in sink or swim to a large extent. Protectionism has never worked out well in any field of human endeavour.

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 10-Dec-2019, 10:59* »
It is true that I am not a great believer in artificial constraints, controls and regulations because the same cunning abilities that make someone succesful in a free market make them equally as sucessful in finding a way around the rules. We have a finite audience for Rugby which can only be divvied up in so many ways so, yes, I do believe in sink or swim to a large extent. Protectionism has never worked out well in any field of human endeavour.

If you like. Given that your story of the effects of ditching the cap had only got as far as everything collapsing, I just wondered if you could manage to construct a happy ending? The thing is, your theory sees the premiership as 12 individual products competing with one another. Isn't it actually (or also if you like) one product competing with other sports? In that case, salary cap regulations are not artificial constraints, they just part of the structure of the business. I would say that is the view held by all the extremely successful sports around the world that have a similar system.

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Re: ‘Breaching salary cap easy to do’
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 10-Dec-2019, 11:53* »
In sporting terms the 12 clubs compete against each other but in business terms they depend on each other to present a product attractive to the punters (mainly TV viewers and the RFU). At premiership level they are doing this reasonably well but at European level they are not. The financially weaker clubs are holding back the stronger ones leaving them unable to compete against the Irish and French.

 

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