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Author Topic: *Danny Axed from World Cup*  (Read 3130 times)

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Quinsgirl84

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QuincyJones

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 14:07* »
Could be right about Danny as he does seem to have fallen out of favour but I just canít see Robshaw not going. Heís missed this year with injury but the second he was fit EJ got him straight back into his training squad. If Shields goes above Robbo itíll be absolute madness.

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 14:26* »
The print copy of the Boris Johnson fansheet Telegraph reckons that all three of our players who played in the England XV vs the BaaBaas are in the mix as bolters for the RWC squad, Smith and Marchant particularly.

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 14:57* »
without my quartered tinted sunglasses on...

Isn't Danny one of the form (not just english) scrum halfs in the league based on this season?

I can't see how he doesnt get into the training squad...

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 15:04* »
Kicking the ball out at half time vs Japan has ended his England playing days...

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 15:22* »
Kicking the ball out at half time vs Japan has ended his England playing days...

I think words might have been exchanged too

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 15:24* »
Bizarre. Well, we've done badly at the last 2 word cups wih Youngs plodding about at 9, so third time lucky
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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 17:27* »
I don't think Care has ever shown he's better than Youngs as a starting scrum half (I mean, consistently). It will be a bit of a surprise if he's left out though, as he has certainly been a very good impact player from the bench.

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 17:40* »
Are we actually surprised though? DC is one of Quins' absolute key players these days - one of the first names on the team sheet. But he's been sooo inconsistent in an England shirt. Whenever he put it on it's like he thought he was playing for France, you just never knew if he'd be totally inspired or put on an utter shambles of a performance. Often, he was somewhere in between, with the occasional serious brainfart cancelling out any good work he did.

Now, I think Youngs has been INCREDIBLY lucky to get the number of caps he has. He's slow off the mark, his passing is generally loopy and he gets tired quickly. Nevertheless, he's focused on his one or two strengths (box-kicking and... okay now I'm struggling...) and that seems to have been enough. I personally think Robson should have been given more of a shot, but that's largely irrelevant now given his health/fitness issues. I'm just not surprised to see Care left out - the writing has been on the wall for quite a while really. Eddie doesn't trust him to go steady rather than totally off script. I don't think we can really blame him - in an England shirt Danny has mostly been infuriating and as such never really locked down the starting berth for any extended period of time when Youngs was also available.

I'd be more surprised if Robshaw doesn't go. Brownie feels 50/50 but if I had to call it I'd say he's not going either.

Selfishly, potentially good news for the start of our GP campaign.

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 17:52* »
Can't be bothered to deal with the Telegraph paywall. Does it name a source?

Care isn't a starter,with the style Eddie wants to play, but he's the best finishing scrum half England have. The number of tries he's created in the last quarter have been very instrumental in a lot of victories - remember his personal demolition of Australia? - and I am willing to bet that he might have made the difference against Wales in the 6N.

I just don't get why Eddie would refuse even to look at players who've been part of his setup for three quarters of his tenure, are the most experienced options in their positions, and haven't noticeably dropped in form. I could understand them not making the final 31, but I'd be perplexed if they weren't in the initial training squad.
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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 18:04* »
His last game for us against Wasps (away) he was dreadful.  He looked as though he just didn't want to be there.  that has been his major problem over the past three seasons - on a good dy he's worldclass with moments of sheer brilliance.  On an off day he's petulent and just not interested.
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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 18:46* »
Kicking the ball out at half time vs Japan has ended his England playing days...

You wouldn't care (whoops!) to jog my/our memories, would you?

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 18:48* »
Danny's a supersub at  international level, nothing more. Hell of a trick though, given his try scoring / creating record. If Robson were fit I'd have been happy with a 6N partnering of Robson/Spencer tbh.

Now, if Bad Shields get picked ahead of Robshaw, then the pitchforks will come out.

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14-Jun-2019, 23:04* »
Care, Robshaw & Brown are yesterdayís men. Sinkler will be the only Quin going unless there is an Injury crisis.

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Re: *Danny Axed from World Cup*
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15-Jun-2019, 08:07* »
Itís been v clear that DCís England days are over.

Robshaw I guess could just sneak in but no way heís in the starting XV.

Will Eddie take Brown? Dunno. Heís not a Jones player, canít cover multiple positions.

The interchangeable back 3 worked pretty well without him - May took a lot of the high balls.

 

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