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Should Quins go after Elliot Daly

Heck YES!
10 (13.5%)
Yes if we don't break the bank/run out of money for other new Signings
16 (21.6%)
No, we've enough options in the backs already for next season
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Fearless Fred

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Elliot Daly
« on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 16:19 »
This is assuming he hasn't already signed to Sarries, of course! Just interested to hear peoples opinions...

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marlowish

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 16:24 »
all day long go for it

GP2110

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 16:26 »
Definitely.  Can play FB, Wing, Centre.  Would bring a very useful boot for long range penalties.

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 16:33 »
No we've got enough options at 15/wing/ outside centre for me. Besides if we have the kind of money he'd be looking for spare I think we need a good solid lock (or 2 if Horwill doesn't come back) and I'm not sure we've got the cash for both (let alone the celery cap).
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Now ex-Navyquin

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 17:17 »
As has been said above I believe that other positions need strengthening first like our options at lock.

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 17:30 »
No, Brownie would be livid! 

Got to think this move is purely financial and he's already got or he's hoping for a marquee slot. Saints or Tigers maybe, not Qs. 

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 17:58 »
Doesn't quite make sense to me though, I think he's got to be going somewhere for a 15 slot? But with Le Roux going surely he could get that at Wasps.
I don't think he can be a marquee player for another premiership club. Isn't there a rule about them not being from another club the previous season?

The Absolute Quintet

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 18:05 »
Ooh, not sure. That would bar all existing prem players though from becoming marquee players other than at their current clubs, no? Seems potentially illegal or at the least distinctly unfair.

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 18:17 »
Ooh, not sure. That would bar all existing prem players though from becoming marquee players other than at their current clubs, no? Seems potentially illegal or at the least distinctly unfair.

Yes - but one of the points of the marquee rule was to allow clubs to defend a couple of home grown superstars if they so desired. From memory, a marquee player has to come from outside the existing premiership - which can mean an academy or a foreign player. It's not illegal because it doesn't affect the players' terms (it's purely a variation to the salary cap) and it's part of a commercial agreement between the clubs. If it were illegal, then so would the salary cap as a whole.

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #9 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 18:53 »
No we've got enough options at 15/wing/ outside centre for me. Besides if we have the kind of money he'd be looking for spare I think we need a good solid lock (or 2 if Horwill doesn't come back) and I'm not sure we've got the cash for both (let alone the celery cap).

Is he a great player?  Yes

Do we need more talent at wings or FB?  Probably not

Are there other positions wed do better to invest in?  Definitely

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #10 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 19:21 »
Ooh, not sure. That would bar all existing prem players though from becoming marquee players other than at their current clubs, no? Seems potentially illegal or at the least distinctly unfair.

Not quite all but the vast majority:

Quote from: PRL regs
A Club shall only be entitled to nominate a Player as their first Excluded Player who:
(i) has been a Player of the Club for at least two full Salary Cap Years prior to the Salary Cap Year in which he is nominated as the Excluded Player; or
(ii) has not been a Player of any Club during the previous Salary Cap Year, other than a Player who (A) qualifies under Regulation 3.3(c)(i) or (B) has only been a Player of a Club during the previous Salary Cap Year as a replacement for an Injured Player following dispensation under Regulation 5; or
(iii) has been a Player (but not an Excluded Player) for the Club in the previous Salary Cap Year and was not a Player for any other Club for at least one Salary Cap Year immediately prior to joining the Club.

Rocker

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #11 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 19:56 »
So yes he can't be a marquee player for anyone but Wasps next season.
Is he going abroad then?
I can't possibly see how Sarries could afford him within the cap!

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 20:31 »
In theory couldn't Sarries move two players like Itoje or Farrell into Marquee category, freeing up space within the cap for someone like Daly who moved from another Prem club?

So yes he can't be a marquee player for anyone but Wasps next season.
Is he going abroad then?
I can't possibly see how Sarries could afford him within the cap!

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #13 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 21:52 »
Yes, but who are their current Marquee players? I just don't see how you get Billy, Mako, Farrell, Itoje, Wiggelsworth, George, Kruis and the rest all in the salary cap without adding Daly who isn't going to be going to be cheap. Even if you take 2 of those guys out that's still a hefty wage bill!

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Re: Elliot Daly
« Reply #14 on: Monday 04-Feb-2019, 22:30 »
Probably the same way they did before but more invisibly this time.
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