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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #75 on: Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 21:41* »
Quote from: Quinten Poulsen on Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 17:25*
It sounds like you have no idea how people can psych themselves up.

Do enlighten us. I’d always assumed that screaming a war dance at the top of your lungs and challenging your opponents wasn’t a bad way.

Whereas, and we are clearly naive and must apologise for this, having never played any sport or known anything about people or sport or having ever read, watched or experienced anything, we assumed that standing still quietly in a naff tracksuit wasn’t ideal by comparison.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #76 on: Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 21:43* »
Facing one also gets people psyched up.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 21:48* »
It’s pseudo cultural nonsense and has been used to give them a boost in what should be difficult away environments for far too long.

As someone says, let them do it during the warm up if it’s so important - then sing the anthems and crack on.

Do it at home by all means, then like having the roof closed and mass singing in Cardiff, it’s just part of the experience of going there.
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 22:05* »
It really isn't "pseudo cultural". I completely understand the arguments against it, but regardless of what the 70s sides did, hakas have huge meaning in NZ culture.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 22:45* »
Quote from: Blucherquin on Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 21:41*
Do enlighten us. I’d always assumed that screaming a war dance at the top of your lungs and challenging your opponents wasn’t a bad way.

Whereas, and we are clearly naive and must apologise for this, having never played any sport or known anything about people or sport or having ever read, watched or experienced anything, we assumed that standing still quietly in a naff tracksuit wasn’t ideal by comparison.

How do you think boxers or cricket batsmen psych themselves up? By doing a Haka?
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 06:49* »
Quote from: JammyGit on Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 22:05*
It really isn't "pseudo cultural". I completely understand the arguments against it, but regardless of what the 70s sides did, hakas have huge meaning in NZ culture.

The idea that it’s so sacrosanct that when they travel, the home team has to obey certain rules when it’s performed is pseudo cultural nonsense.

The haka itself is of course part of Maori culture.

But rugby matches are not.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #81 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 09:24* »
Quote from: Quinten Poulsen on Tuesday 13-Nov-2018, 17:25*
It sounds like you have no idea how people can psych themselves up.

I thought we were having a civilised discussion here and now I get insults? You suddenly tell me I know nothing because I don't agree with you? You are Donald Trump and I claim my £10!
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #82 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 09:29* »
"The haka itself is of course part of Maori culture.

But rugby matches are not."

This. The whole standing still watching thing is what I object to.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 10:14* »
Well our psyching up shall henceforth be "Swing Low" sung at full volume. Why can't the players join in?
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« Reply #84 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 13:32* »
Maybe the players could be allowed to make the gestures, too?
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« Reply #85 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 13:43* »
It's lucky none of the other Pacific teams have this cultural tradition, otherwise the rest of the world wouldn't get a look in at the RWC.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #86 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 14:05* »
The Haka is why NZ can charge £7,000,000 just to turn up.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #87 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 14:44* »
Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 14:05*
The Haka is why NZ can charge £7,000,000 just to turn up.

Thankfully there’s no way that will have happened. When they last tried that, they got told where to go in no uncertain terms.
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #88 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 15:47* »
Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 14:05*
NZ can charge £7,000,000 just to turn up.

That invoice was returned unpaid.

They do not and did not get £7 million

And I hope they never do. Where did you get that particular piece of rubbish from?
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Re: England v New Zealand tickets avail online
« Reply #89 on: Wednesday 14-Nov-2018, 16:46* »
My bin.

There's no smoke without fire. I'd bet my shirt on it.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10742659
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