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J Scott

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 18:29 »
How is nobody picking Mickey Skinner even if just for the banter and drinking games.
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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 20:16 »
Maybe we should have 2 teams: the best and the hardest. Front row of Claxton, Claxton, and Claxton would be my starter.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 20:27 »
For me Lowe takes it at 13

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 21:08 »
I don’t know how you ever pick a best XV as it’s all down to who remembers who. The only way I can see how you would do it is to break it down into eras. Then pick out the outstanding player from each one . I think you would have to then split it between amateur and professional. Is anybody old enough to remember any players from the sixties backwards apart from Adrian Stoop? Nobody has nominated him as yet but from what I’ve read he’s a contender.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 21:44 »
These things are as frustrating and futile as they are fun!

Nobody mentioned Fuga? Some would choose Jones and Ross at prop, but who would overlook Jase? Gareth Llewellyn? Robshaw is a must... Isn't he? Look at the competition. For me he's definitely there. And what about Big Mo? Winterbottom was a hard player, but Mo...

Great fun, but absolutely impossible to judge!

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 02:31 »
These things are as frustrating and futile as they are fun!

Nobody mentioned Fuga? Some would choose Jones and Ross at prop, but who would overlook Jase? Gareth Llewellyn? Robshaw is a must... Isn't he? Look at the competition. For me he's definitely there. And what about Big Mo? Winterbottom was a hard player, but Mo...

Great fun, but absolutely impossible to judge!

Ahhh good old Tani Fuga! He would be my choice! I remember his last competitive game when he took the kick! Great player and great all round guy

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 08:47 »
As I say -- maybe we should do our own but let's not give the clickbait article the benefit. It's specifically designed to increase ad revenue.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 09:49 »
2006 for me so only counting players I've seen for Quins:

15- Brown. Consistently great at club level, effective even now as an Int, great attitude and legend
15- Monye. Shame about his one handed holding technique for the Lions, and having to play FB rather than Wing for England. But at his pomp singlehandedly gave Quins a competent kick chase
13- Lowe. Sadly ruined by injury but classy, smooth link in attack and one of the most underrated defensive centres in the AP when fit. Would have loved him to get a chance for England, had the mind to be a Conrad Smith style international 13.
12- Greenwood. Played even in the relegated team that I started supporting, and possibly England's best ever 12 (despite not wearing it).
11- Strettle. Now a steady, consistent winger with all round game, but at Quins his step was untouchable and he oozed flair in a way few English wingers did at that time.
10- Evans. Possibly the best long term import from the Southern hemisphere in the Premiership, at various stages offered match winning goal kicking, tactical kicking, drop kicking and game management but at all times was the amazing conductor of the Quins attack
9- Care. At his best, the metronome of our attack and an everpresent individual threat.
8- Easter. A unique 8 with his handling, positioning and approach to the carry (not power so much as refusal to go down), impossible to replace
7- Andre Vos. A giant of the game and another big reason in the repromotion of Quins.
6- Robshaw.  Captained Quins to the title. Captained England and still an asset to them. Played a final basically all at 10 whilst doing an openside's job too. Only player to have won AP player of the year twice, happens to have been in 2 positions (6 and 7)
5- Horwill. Still his career with Quins is young but makes a huge difference when he plays and can deaf the team over the line by himself
4- Kohn. A monster whose power in the carry added much but also singlehandedly made Quins' Scrum dangerous and not from the front row
3- Ross. The turning point when Quins' scrums became a weapon not a liability for a while again
2 - Fuga. A warrior whose work around the pitch made him invaluable
1- Marler. Early Marler was weak in the Scrum but learnt quickly and carried with immense power and surprising pace and subtlety, as well as having soft hands. Late Marler is one of the best scrummagers in the world with a huge work rate and crushing defence.

16- Ceri Jones, 17- Gray (at his best), 18- Sinckler, 19- Robson, 20- Big Mo (I think James Chisholm will be though, and Clifford possibly in the mix), 21- Gomarsall, 22- Mehrtens, 23- Tom Williams (Marchant will be one)

Missing lots of big names from before then, but I can't really comment on players that I never saw play live

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 10:29 »
For me it would be:

1. Marler
2. Moore
3. Leonard
4. Ackford
5. Dooley
6. Skinner
7. Winterbottom
8. Easter
9. Loveridge
10. Evans
11. Monye
12. Greenwood
13. Woodward
14. Harriman
15. Hiller

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Mullins, Johnston, Morgan, Vos, Care, LeCroix, Carling, Brown

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 10:45 »
First game of 2003 season was my first time at the Stoop, so based on players seen since then...

1. Leonard
2. Fuga
3. Ross
4. Kohn
5. Robson
6. Robshaw
7. Vos
8. Easter
9. Care
10. Evans
11. Monye
12. Greenwood
13. Lowe
14. Strettle
15. Brown

16. Tiatia
17. Marler
18. Johnston
19. Horwill
20. Skinner
21. Gommars
22. Burke
23. Keogh

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 10:49 »
Robshaw's skillset was a mile ahead of Winterbottom. Can't imagine Winters ever putting in the sort of all-court display that Robshaw would regularly produce at 7, and he was never as good an international flanker.

Why the past tense?

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 10:50 »
Unintentional, but anyway I don't think he has the same skillset now. The Robshaw that tore it up for so many seasons doesn't really exist any more - we don't see the creative side of his game these days.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 12:27 »
Well if we are talking about greatest as men, the 60 unavailable for selection when play resumed in 1919 must be up there.
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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 14:13 »
Do you really think we are?

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 19-Dec-2018, 15:52 »
Well I have been thinking and this is my pick

15. Mike Brown
14. Tom Williams
13. Will Greenwood
12. Jordan Turner-Hall
11. Ugo Monye
10. Nick Evans
9. Danny Care
8. Nick Easter
7. Peter Winterbottom
6. Chris Robshaw
5. Paul Ackford
4. Ollie Kohn
3. Kyle Sinckler
2. Keith Wood
1. Jason Leonard


 

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