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Le Tiss

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greatest quins 15 ever
« on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 08:28* »
https://www.ruck.co.uk/harlequinss-greatest-players-is-this-quins-greatest-all-time-xv/3/

one or two surprising names here - Adam Jones for one?

and no i dont know how to put a link in correctly because i am technically stupid......good lord it worked :)

Pressie

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 09:05* »
Andrew Harriman, Paul Ackford, Bob Hillier, Daren O'Leary (if not just since the Pro-era) are missing in my opinion, at least from the discussion.

Gone

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 09:17* »
The article is basically click bait, guess it's just the "biggest" names rather than any actual assessment of their contribution in that position for the club.

Jones is obvs one of the best ever and a total legend -- but none of that legend really comes from his time with us.

His greatest contribution for us has been turning Sink into the player he is now -- from not great at scrummaging "trouble" (media only) into England's best player of the autumn.

Fearless Fred

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 09:22* »
Mind you, Bomb was also pretty spectacular when at very short notice he went from being on a weekend off to playing 74minutes on the Loosehead side against Northampton in the last season he played for us!
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PhilQuin2

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 09:25* »
 - No Andre Vos either(!!)
 - Nor Jamie Salmon. Keith 'Uncle Fester' Wood. Dan Luger was part of the 2013 RWC winning team too.

-Interesting, innit? - Brown vs Hiller (or Jim Staples?), Vos vs Robshaw, Moore vs Wood...…… etc etc

 - One thing is sure, we'd have one hellova bench!

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 09:42* »
I started coming to Quins in 1995. For me - it would be:

15. Brown
14. O'Leary
13. Carling
12. Greenwood
11. Monye
10. Evans
9. Care
8. Easter
7. Vos
6. Robshaw
5. Llewellyn
4. Kohn
3. Ross
2. Wood
1. Leonard

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 10:01* »
The definitive list -
Brown, Williams, Lowe, Turner-Hall, Monye; Evans, Care; Marler, Gray, Johnston, Kohn, Robson, Fa'asavalu, Robshaw, Easter.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 11:49* »
Mind you, Bomb was also pretty spectacular when at very short notice he went from being on a weekend off to playing 74minutes on the Loosehead side against Northampton in the last season he played for us!

I was discussing that performance at a dinner just last night. Those 74 minutes are probably the fastest transition to legendary status I've seen in a sportsman. But if we consider him at loosehead I am not sure he'd displace either Marler or Leonard.

Quinofthestoneage

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 11:50* »
Wood vs Moore is a real close contest, reflecting their real life rivalry  ;)

 

Peter Winterbottom vs Robshaw would have been an interesting contest as well - I know they are both included here - but they really personify the differences in the amateur and the professional game for me. Natural flair and agression vs Pure work rate.

Disappointed that Ackford isn't in there as well. It won't be a popular view, I know, but  I firmly believe that if Dooley and Ackford were pros now, they would absolutely pound a pairing like Etzebeth and De Jaager or Whitelock and Retallick, just on sheer agression alone.

Ah, the 80s. Them were the days.....

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JammyGit

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 12:47* »
Robshaw's skillset was a mile ahead of Winterbottom. Can't imagine Winters ever putting in the sort of all-court display that Robshaw would regularly produce at 7, and he was never as good an international flanker.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 13:06* »
Winterbottom was one of the hardest men I've ever seen on a rugby pitch. I'd love to have seen what he'd have been like under professionalism!

I'd definitely have him, Moore and Ackford in any pack. All RWC finalists.
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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 13:54* »
No David Wilson?  Though competition at the flank is fierce.  And I'd have Garrick Morgan and Ackford ahead of Kohn.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 13:56* »
The pack that got left out would be pretty useful:

Johnston
Wood
Mullins
Coker
Ackford
Wilson
Vos
Langhorn

And still no space for Mickey Skinner, Nick Easter, Tony Diprose, Chris Sheasby, Wavell Wakefield
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Quinofthestoneage

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 14:32* »
The pack that got left out would be pretty useful:

Johnston
Wood
Mullins
Coker
Ackford
Wilson
Vos
Langhorn

And still no space for Mickey Skinner, Nick Easter, Tony Diprose, Chris Sheasby, Wavell Wakefield

Blimey, I'd forgotten that Troy Coker was a Quin! Total legend in the '91 World Cup winning side.

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Re: greatest quins 15 ever
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18-Dec-2018, 16:58* »
Winterbottom is first name in any England or Quins team for me. Dewy-eyed nostalgia to an extent, but based on the fact that he was quality, hard as nails and a real leader. Imagine if he had had a run in the professional era?

 

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