No, we can't score against 12!
Absolute disgrace
That was meant for the match thread
I’d suggest getting an experienced Director of Rugby. It’s hardly radical.
I’m really sorry to single Heron out but so many awful passes today and the back line looks like they just met in the Kings Bar 30mins before KO...pretty awful from a pro rugby team
I wouldn't usually be one for getting rid of gustard, but that game has certainly jolted my confidence in him. Just horrible.
We’ve had a “3-5 year plan” for about 7 years now, the transition argument really isn’t a good one now considering other sides in their “transition” phase have improved. The real thing to take away is when we’ve entered the new phases, so for JKs reign and now Gustard, is they both have been underwhelming without a clear improvement to suggest it’s a work in progress but things will be better, as we have said the same things for years on what’s wrong. I’ve been following Quins since I was 10, and I’m now 31, so in that time I’ve seen a lot of setups and we’ve been in reverse since the giddy days of 2012. Everyone’s entitled to opinions, but other than blind faith that his third season in charge will be polar opposites to the first 2, I don’t think he’s taking us in the right direction to be anything other than a win 1 lose 2-3 side
This is what is so frustrating. An OK performance and a win is almost inevitably followed up by a dreadful one and a thumping.
I don't think Gustard should go. I think he and his coaches need to get a grip and start making sure players know there are consequences for playing like idiots.
None of Gustard, Flannery, or Long strike me as being soft. So why on earth are Quins so soft? Why are they so stupid at times? Why are they incapable of standing up to physical teams? Why do they only put a shift in once the game is lost? It's been yet another absolutely appalling non-performance, this time in front of paying fans for the first time in months, and Quins are playing like it's an end-of-season jolly where it's just about having a few drinks and having a jolly with your mates.
Too many players get talked up for middling performances or for showing sparks of talent among the mediocrity. Nathan Earle continues to mess up in defence time and again and makes really bad decisions with ball in hand, and hasn't improved. Dombrandt continues to be anonymous for large stretches of matches instead of working all 80 minutes. Care continues to prefer to moan and flap and put his own team in trouble under pressure. Mediocre players continue to earn a living at Quins despite never coming good on whatever promise they showed.
You can get lesser talented players to play to a game plan, to stick to the task, and to front up. Quins under Deano were like that. AJ was no more talented than Herron but he had bottle and knew what he was trying to do. We all give Lasike a pass for his obvious failings, because he also provides us with an obvious weapon in attack and most importantly that often pays off. But the same is true for most of the other players - they have big failings and they often DON'T make up for it with their play.
Who was surprised when Will Collier got repeatedly destroyed in the scrum by Lewis Boyce? Who was surprised when we kept throwing appalling passes or incredibly speculative offloads after having almost no ball? Who was surprised when it turned out that Bath had two better scrumhalves than our best scrumhalf? Who was surprised when we butchered scoring opportunities time and again? Who was surprised by dumb penalties?
I'm certain the coaching staff can see the same thing. Take the damn gloves off and stop coddling this team.
Your opinion. I too have supported the club for 20+ years.
I am an optimist yes, however as I have learned in life, you get nothing for short termisim. It is the problem with a lot of sports and life in general.
People were calling for Clive Woodwards head after the poor performance in the 1999 world cup.
Rob Baxter at Exeter has shown a great model in Rugby Alex Ferguson in Football. Gustard may never be as good as those three but to get rid of him now is not an intelligent thing to do.
Bath had really done their home work on what we did v Saints and not playing Smith was a disaster.
There was allegedly a big bollocking from the coaches after the Worcs game.What does this say about the players respect for their bosses?
I suspect confidence is low among the coaches let alone the players and no one knows how to get out of it because they are not just good enough to achieve top 6.
I think the bigger issue is strength in depth of the squad. Our first fifteen can mix it but the drop off in quality is stark. Competition for places drives performances. We have too many players who are almost guaranteed starters and there are no consequences for delivering average performances.
I've a bit of sympathy for Gustard with our three SA's unavailable. But another serious recruitment drive is needed. We need two horrible locks, at least two flankers and a back up FH.
We have talented backs but they're just not being given a consistent platform.
Weaker players is just an excuse. Yes, we have too much dead wood. But there's no excuse for a lack of effort and such an appalling lack of cohesion, or bottle.
I wish the Gustard out lot would go back to the beer or go and watch football, you seem better suited with your negative, short sightedness and over dramatic post!
What a lovely response, were to start, no I haven't drank today, yes I do also support a football team.
I assume by your stereotype based responce you are one of those privately educated toffs who think they are better than others as they grew up with a trust fund and that if others have an opinion they are just a drunk football hooligan?
Am I close?
Everyone is entitled to an opinion!
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