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Quinky

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 12:35* »
Not sure we have many whose place is unchallenged and not an international. Is Horwillís season being tainted with the lack of coaching nouse and fitness that plagued the whole team?

Iíd want to see Bothma string a couple of months rugby together before making him captain. He certainly has potential, but canít see what heís proved that makes him captaincy material. Iíd stick with Horwill this season.

Bothma leads from the front. He's very much in the thick of it and makes some very hard yards. The kind of guy you want on your side in a battle.

If he stays fit, I think he'll be a key player this season. I hope his arm stays in one piece, although it seems to be more titanium than bone these days.

honkytonk

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 12:41* »
Lets hope he does not rust

Archquin

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 13:03* »
as long as he keeps it well oiled it will be fine

Chipstead Quin

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 13:07* »
Not sure we have many whose place is unchallenged and not an international. Is Horwillís season being tainted with the lack of coaching nouse and fitness that plagued the whole team?

Iíd want to see Bothma string a couple of months rugby together before making him captain. He certainly has potential, but canít see what heís proved that makes him captaincy material. Iíd stick with Horwill this season.

I agree Cookie , whilst Horwill didn't appear particularly effective last year , he was plagued by personal injury and a team lacking confidence in the second half of the season . He was deemed by experienced management to be good enough to skipper the Wallabies before Quins , so I'm sure he must have  all the right qualities.

 Bothma ( again as an International Capt) will be a future leader , but I would like to see him get a successful season under his belt and concentrate on his own game .

If Gustard is naming 2 , then I wouldn't surprised to see Danny Care in the mix especially if it becomes more apparent that his England career has stalled.




« Last Edit: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 13:12* by Chipstead Quin »

Cookie

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 13:10* »
Bothma has played 6 games. Six! Let him concentrate on playing regularly and proving heís as good as some thing. He doesnít need the captaincy and we have better candidates.

Teddington Taff

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 17:36* »
All the talk is about leaders but we need someone with a proper rugby brain too.  Robshaw had it - excluding his one moment in the World Cup.  Horwill has it.  Danny and Joe - NOT.  Dave Ward is a popular choice but not necessarily a first starter with the new crop coming through and can get too hot headed.  Wallace?  Maybe. Young Chisholm?  Not enough experience and again not necessarily first choice on the team sheet.  Clifford if he was fit!  remember him being talked about as a future England Captain and seems to have a rugby head on his shoulders.

Quinten Poulsen

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 17:54* »
Horwill and Robshaw would do for me. The two most experienced captains by far.

Gone

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Re: Gustard delays Captaincy decision
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 16-Aug-2018, 18:59* »
It also comes down to position. A scrum half can always get in the ref's ear. It's harder for the wing/FB if you have to run in to talk to him every time.

Also (again I do love MB but)....he doesn't have the temperament to talk to sir. We'd end up getting marched back when the red mist descends.

Mike Brown's red mist is a myth. Look at his disciplinary record - I'd be willing to bet that there have been more yellow cards issued for fouls *on* Mike Brown than for fouls *by* Mike Brown. He's shouty and passionate and doesn't tolerate poor performance - but he also has an incredibly well-developed sense of where the line is and how not to cross it. I think that's one of the reasons opposing teams hate him so much: it looks like he's going to fall foul of the ref, but he almost never does because he stops exactly where the boundary falls.

I would have no concerns about him talking to the ref. I'd be more worried that fullback is just not the best position to be influencing the ref, and you run the risk of being out of position.

But he did it for Quins and England last season (annoying the ref).

 

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