All the talk is about leaders but we need someone with a proper rugby brain too.  Robshaw had it - excluding his one moment in the World Cup.  Horwill has it.  Danny and Joe - NOT.  Dave Ward is a popular choice but not necessarily a first starter with the new crop coming through and can get too hot headed.  Wallace?  Maybe. Young Chisholm?  Not enough experience and again not necessarily first choice on the team sheet.  Clifford if he was fit!  remember him being talked about as a future England Captain and seems to have a rugby head on his shoulders.