Author Topic: Homophobic language use common in rugby union, says research backed by Harlequins. (Read 1976 times)

InsertQuinsPunHere · « **Reply #15 on:** Tuesday 18-Feb-2020, 19:03* »

That is a great article, thank you for sharing. A good answer to my earlier question about the impact of such a day.

Mayor West · « **Reply #16 on:** Tuesday 18-Feb-2020, 20:21* »

I hope rocker has read this and it answers some questions for him.

Brown Bottle · « **Reply #17 on:** Tuesday 18-Feb-2020, 21:53* »

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Therein lies a big part of the problem. People rush to be offended and suddenly the so called offence is deemed "phobic". One man's humour is another man's insult, and it can be a fine line.

I don't think you get it.

Quinky · « **Reply #18 on:** Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 06:38* »

Quote from: Brown Bottle on Tuesday 18-Feb-2020, 21:53*

I don't think you get it.

I don't think you know what I get.

number_seven · « **Reply #19 on:** Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 12:02* »

That's a great article, thanks for sharing. I also thought the video from Jade Konkel was particularly affecting:

Great that we can have these discussions in the club, and that we have players who can speak up.

MadMax · « **Reply #20 on:** Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 12:30* »

And so the intolerance to other peoples opinions continues.

How long before this thread is locked I wonder?

Quinky · « **Reply #21 on:** Friday 21-Feb-2020, 17:56* »

Quote from: MadMax on Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 12:30*

And so the intolerance to other peoples opinions continues.

How long before this thread is locked I wonder?

Agreed. A differing opinion is met with "you don't get it", rather than "I acknowledge that we have different opinions".

Fursty · « **Reply #22 on:** Friday 21-Feb-2020, 18:02* »

But what if that view is firmly rooted in the 1970s?

JammyGit · « **Reply #23 on:** Friday 21-Feb-2020, 23:15* »

Quote from: Quinky on Friday 21-Feb-2020, 17:56*

Agreed. A differing opinion is met with "you don't get it", rather than "I acknowledge that we have different opinions".

Suggesting you're not getting it is not intolerance. It's suggesting you're missing something fundamental about the disagreement.

Quinky · « **Reply #24 on:** Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 00:17* »

Quote from: JammyGit on Friday 21-Feb-2020, 23:15*

Suggesting you're not getting it is not intolerance. It's suggesting you're missing something fundamental about the disagreement.

And if I say that you "just don't get it", how does that benefit any discussion?

Quinky · « **Reply #25 on:** Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 00:19* »

Quote from: JammyGit on Friday 21-Feb-2020, 23:15*

Suggesting you're not getting it is not intolerance. It's suggesting you're missing something fundamental about the disagreement.

I'll let the gay chap in the anecdote know that he's firmly rooted in the 1970's. Even though he wasn't born then.

I'll also let him know that even though it's his life, he just "doesn't get it", and should be outraged, as others seem to be on his behalf.

JammyGit · « **Reply #26 on:** Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 00:28* »

Quote from: Quinky on Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 00:17*

And if I say that you "just don't get it", how does that benefit any discussion?

It's intended to make you think more, I suppose.

Quinky · « **Reply #27 on:** Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 02:38* »

Quote from: JammyGit on Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 00:28*

It's intended to make you think more, I suppose.

I think it's intended to suggest that I'm wrong.

SwindonQuin · « **Reply #28 on:** Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 11:09* »

Based on the topic.

I think that use of language that could cause offence to the LGBTQ+ community is rife in all areas, not just rugby or sport but in every workplace or social setting.

Not that 99.9% of people actually intend to cause offence. I've witnessed and to be honest said things which could be considered offensive to LGBTQ+ such as when a colleague has worn a pink shirt said 'oh suits you sir' and have said to a friend 'your such a bender' when they have done something funny or stupid. Whilst I have said these things in jest I have no intention of offending someone who is LGBTQ+ but I can see how it could cause offence to someone listening.

Maybe it's my imaturtity, lack of understanding or just I'm a bit insensitive but it is something I personally need to work on as an individual.

It might sound stereotypical but in my extended family we have a bi-sexual, a gay and a post op transgender, they are who they are and their sexual orientation has no impact on me as they are just human beings. I have only ever judged them on your actions and personality as I judge everyone I meet.

Some of the comments on here, which seem to have been deleted and/or shut down have been disgusting, whilst everyone has their own views and opinions you should only ever post online something you would say in public and to the person's face.

I strongly belove that some people need to think about what they say or act as of it was your child/friend/family who were being targeted would you accept it as freedom of speech, I doubt it.

Intolerance and hate only leads to anger and division.

I maybe a straight man but I would break bread with anyone who is a decent human being (in my opinion of course)

Sorry if this comes across a bit preacher esc.

COYQ

New Forest Quin · « **Reply #29 on:** Saturday 22-Feb-2020, 11:32* »

I'm a racing cyclist and have been heavily involved in the sport since the late 70s.
One of the best British riders in the 80s was Robert Millar who finished 4th and won the King of the Mountains in the 1984 Tour de France.
Robert has now become Pippa York and I was sitting at a table next to her at a cycling dinner a few weeks ago and the most notable thing, other than the physical change, was that she seemed happy to finally be living the life which she had been hiding for so many years and, whatever anyone else might think about your decision to make these changes, to be able to live a content and happy life is surely the most important thing.

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