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Author Topic: What would it mean if the Premiership expanded to 13?  (Read 969 times)

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Yareet

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A 14 team Prem would actually mean 4 more games (two extra home & away).

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A 14 team Prem would actually mean 4 more games (two extra home & away). You only have to look at the Top14 to see how long that season goes on. The other alternative is a pool stage like the Pro14. In some ways I'd say that's preferable to a straight 14 team simple league.

Or, get rid of the Premiership Cup and "merge" it with the A League, or what ever it is called, freeing up some extra weeks.
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Fearless Fred

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Or, get rid of the Premiership Cup and "merge" it with the A League, or what ever it is called, freeing up some extra weeks.
Drop the Prem cup & you free up 6 weeks, for an extra 4 weeks of games. However, the Prem Cup allows for games that aren't taken so seriously during the 6 Nations. We'd be replacing them with Premiershp games instead when teams have their international players unavailable...

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It would allow for a few rest weeks but also the opportunity to bring in the better merged cup/A League players who need exposure to the game, but I take your point. Play-offs would still provide some protection for the teams that contribute most to England/other sides.

I'm not sure I know who it would work, but I'm not a fan of splitting league up into two pools though - would the pools be the same each year or would they be rotated - they'd have to be, surely, or we'd lose trips to some clubs for years.

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It would allow for a few rest weeks but also the opportunity to bring in the better merged cup/A League players who need exposure to the game, but I take your point. Play-offs would still provide some protection for the teams that contribute most to England/other sides.

I'm not sure I know who it would work, but I'm not a fan of splitting league up into two pools though - would the pools be the same each year or would they be rotated - they'd have to be, surely, or we'd lose trips to some clubs for years.

The Pro14 seem to have come up with a reasonable split. Yes, they seem to have the same pools each year, but it still ends up with every team playing every other team at least once a season.

That said, I'm not a fan of splitting the league into pools  or of ring-fencing either. I'd prefer it to be kept at 12 teams with P&R, and better funding for the Championship teams to help to grow the game...

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That said, I'm not a fan of splitting the league into pools  or of ring-fencing either. I'd prefer it to be kept at 12 teams with P&R, and better funding for the Championship teams to help to grow the game...

Mostly agreed, although with RFU's revenues heading down, it would be hard to envisage better funding for the game in near future.

I think the only way to minimiser fatigue and burn out - player welfare - would be to emulate the Irish's stance where their top players play half the rugby to ensure their better showing in Europe and International rugby. But this would seem to fly in the face of many spectators/stakeholders wishes.

Yareet

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Or, get rid of the Premiership Cup and "merge" it with the A League, or what ever it is called, freeing up some extra weeks.

As has been quoted, those extra weeks are largely during the AIs and 6N. Next season the Prem Cup is during the World Cup.

The basic maths don’t add up as it stands:

22 weeks of Prem
2 weeks of playoffs
6 weeks of Europe
3 weeks of European knock out
4 AI weeks
5 6N weeks

That’s 42 weeks. Add in a Summer tour of 3 weeks and you’re left with 7 weeks for rest and pre-season.

If we increase the Prem to 14 teams, that gives a 49 week season.

 

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