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RodneyRegis

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #30 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 17:00* »
Nobody cares.

Only Joe Quin

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« Reply #31 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 17:13* »
Nobody cares.
I doubt that. I know quite a few people who care that educational attainment is lower for those from disadvantaged backgrounds.

RodneyRegis

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #32 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 17:20* »
Perhaps. But nobody cares that bq is having a private spat with some noob troll and is trying to paint him as a racist. And even if they do care about social justice, take it to the other forum.

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #33 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 18:19* »
I care. "Trying to paint him as a racist"? The guy's posts speak for themselves.

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #34 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 19:07* »
One of the great things about supporting rugby is how so much of it is self-policing. And this forum is a microcosm of the fan base, so if people start saying they don't care about people coming on here, ostensibly as a Harlequins' fan, and spouting dog-whistle racist nonsense, then that's a real problem.

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #35 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 20:11* »
Perhaps. But nobody cares that bq is having a private spat with some noob troll and is trying to paint him as a racist. And even if they do care about social justice, take it to the other forum.

Hi. I’m not having a private spat. The bloke hasn’t got the guts to say what he means which is that if you’re poor you’re stupid.

Lord knows where you get racism from or that I’m “paint”ing him as anything.

Social justice my hairy behind - I’m not the Guardian mate.

Rugby isn’t just a sport for thick posh Ruperts who went to average public schools.

And coming from south London or anywhere else he’s decided are not “people like us” doesn’t make you “thick”.

Kyle appears to be brain dead but he’d be equally brain dead if he went to Wellington.
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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #36 on: Monday 22-Apr-2019, 20:26* »
Let's get rid of this inadequate education theme. Kyle went to Graveney School in Tooting which has consistently been rated highly and is highly sought after, being one of London's most oversubscribed schools. He then went to Epsom College. He most certainly did not have a poor educational experience in a 'sink' state school. Graveney are very proud that he is one of their former pupils.

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 09:24* »
I doubt that. I know quite a few people who care that educational attainment is lower for those from disadvantaged backgrounds.

Life is not equal or fair - never has been never will be.

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 10:26* »
Life is not equal or fair - never has been never will be.

Which isn't the point.

Being a sneering so-and-so because of where someone comes from is the point.

« Last Edit: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 10:36* by Blucherquin »

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 10:34* »
I don't know whether Kyle gives away an inordinate number of penalties for a prop. But they do seem to happen at some crucial points in games.
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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 10:42* »
I don't know whether Kyle gives away an inordinate number of penalties for a prop. But they do seem to happen at some crucial points in games.

He's a great player but he is currently a liability at crunch moments. I use liability in its proper sense that his (current) behaviour puts teams he's in at a disadvantage.

Teams both at national and club level are deliberately targeting him and he's reacting - he had cut it out when Jones got hold of him a few years back but it's now back in full effect. Maybe Adam doesn't have quite the sway he did over him when it was more of a "junior and master" relationship.

But it's hurt us badly twice in a few short weeks. No doubt their 6 was niggling him that led to that reaction but you just can't react these days.

As Warburton said on BT (as graciously as he could), if you're going to play like that you need the emotional intelligence to deal with it and not react.

They said it looked like it had reached the point his teammates need to sit him down and explain that he's hurting them.
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 11:54* »
But this is what happened with Marler. For a number of games he seemed unable to not react, he was getting wound up and becoming a penalty machine. And it didn't get solved in one game or one month even. I think this is something Sinkler has to work through (with support) until he can laugh it off like Joe does.
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Quinky

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 23-Apr-2019, 12:40* »
But this is what happened with Marler. For a number of games he seemed unable to not react, he was getting wound up and becoming a penalty machine. And it didn't get solved in one game or one month even. I think this is something Sinkler has to work through (with support) until he can laugh it off like Joe does.

I guess the advantage that Joe has is that he's no longer an international. In that sense, he doesn't have the sword hanging over his head that any misdemeanours could affect his international ambitions. Strangely it should be the other way around though - Kyle being more conscious of his antics.

Maybe Kyle is struggling with the pressure, as Joe did?

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Re: Kyle Sinkler
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 24-Apr-2019, 16:25* »
KS seems to get more wound up (he's naturally on the edge, by his own admission) when his opposing prop gets the better of him - especially obvious during the Wales, Sale and Clermont games. When he is being bettered, he seems to respond by being petulant and careless. He really has to learn to control this. Marler seemed to do it by concentrated on his scrummaging skills - this is the medicine that Sinks needs to drain away his blind rage and provide more control. It is the source of the problem and by learning to take the hit and the initial pressure from the opposing LH/Hooker, he'll improve as a scrummager and be a world class all-round beast of a player, but in a positive way.

I cannot imagine that PG will be planning anything other than keeping him and providing the best training and coaching he needs. At least, I hope so.

 

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