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JammyGit

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #15 on: Monday 29-Oct-2018, 19:52* »
Congratulations to him. I've seen far more of his promise this season, though his error count is worryingly high still.

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 30-Oct-2018, 08:25* »
Never really get why anyone is perturbed about letting Sweil go -- never saw anything in him myself beyond yet another squad filler that we've been overburdened with for years.

I'm sure he's a nice chap and all that, but our problem has been not having quality replacements and don't think he was it after some initial promise.

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 30-Oct-2018, 23:25* »
Well done, although I imagine he's going to be holding tackle bags rather than playing.

Maybe, but Russell isn't available for at least the first game and Pete Horne has been playing centre. Looks like young Hastings may be first choice with Lang possibly  FH/centre replacement.

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 10:52* »
Did we have to release him for the first game, given that it's outside the window?

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 10:58* »
Did we have to release him for the first game, given that it's outside the window?

Given it's the cup and the Cat needs game time I'm not sure it's too much of an issue. Assuming we want to keep him probably not great either to mess up his international aspirations - think he'd easily get another club if we messed him about at this stage.

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 11:04* »
Did we have to release him for the first game, given that it's outside the window?

Given it's the cup and the Cat needs game time I'm not sure it's too much of an issue. Assuming we want to keep him probably not great either to mess up his international aspirations - think he'd easily get another club if we messed him about at this stage.

I think the club are happy for him to get the international recognition, given we have two other fit FHs. My thought is "will we get fined by PRL for the release outside the window as Northampton were with North?"

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 12:01* »
I doubt that there is any prospect of a fine.  Choosing not to play our 3rd choice fly half for a cup game and instead allowing him to play for another team seems fair enough.

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 12:47* »
I doubt that there is any prospect of a fine.  Choosing not to play our 3rd choice fly half for a cup game and instead allowing him to play for another team seems fair enough.

That won't matter to the PRL. They made the RFU pay handsomely for the release of England players outside the WR defined International windows, so expect that any release for other Unions would need to be similarly recompensed. If the union isn't going to pay for the release, then the PRL will make the club releasing the player pay instead.

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 13:42* »
I doubt that there is any prospect of a fine.  Choosing not to play our 3rd choice fly half for a cup game and instead allowing him to play for another team seems fair enough.

That won't matter to the PRL. They made the RFU pay handsomely for the release of England players outside the WR defined International windows, so expect that any release for other Unions would need to be similarly recompensed. If the union isn't going to pay for the release, then the PRL will make the club releasing the player pay instead.

Sorry now I'm really confused.

So have the RFU paid for the release of all the England players from their clubs?

South African players are not being released by Premiership clubs for example.

So how does it work with Lang and why are there different outcomes?

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 13:57* »
Lang hasn't made the matchday squad for the game against Wales this Saturday .

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Re: Lang's been called up for duty
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 31-Oct-2018, 14:13* »
I doubt that there is any prospect of a fine.  Choosing not to play our 3rd choice fly half for a cup game and instead allowing him to play for another team seems fair enough.

That won't matter to the PRL. They made the RFU pay handsomely for the release of England players outside the WR defined International windows, so expect that any release for other Unions would need to be similarly recompensed. If the union isn't going to pay for the release, then the PRL will make the club releasing the player pay instead.

Sorry now I'm really confused.

So have the RFU paid for the release of all the England players from their clubs?

South African players are not being released by Premiership clubs for example.

So how does it work with Lang and why are there different outcomes?

The RFU pay PRL for release of England players outside the International Window, even if they are returned to their clubs as MB & NE have been. That was part of the "club vs country" barney a few years back. This is to allow EJ (or whoever succeeds him) to hold extra training camps outside International release windows, etc.

for players of any other Union (Wales, SA, Sco, etc), if they are playing in the Gallagher Premiership, they can only be released to play during the sanctioned WR International Release windows. As such, that is why the SA players you would expect to play this w/e aren't playing, as they haven't been released.

I'm not sure what exactly the situation is regarding Lang, but if he plays in the Scotland side outside the International window, the PRL can fine us (Quins) for releasing him. They did that to Saints a few years back when North played for Wales outside the Window.

Lang hasn't made the matchday squad for the game against Wales this Saturday .

That may get us out of the fine, as he won't be playing.

 

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