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Marchant on bench v Wales
« on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 11:48* »
I have given up pretending I know rugby because apparently it's the perfect time to test an ancient scrum half with no international experience and previous success in club rugby based on appearances from the bench...but delighted for Marchant, will be there to hopefully see him win his first cap.

England starting XV
15 Elliot Daly (Saracens, 30 caps)
14 Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 22 caps)
12 Piers Francis (Northampton Saints, 4 caps)
11 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 33 caps)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 55 caps) C
9 Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped) VC
1 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 9 caps)
2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 11 caps)
3 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 85 caps)
4 Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 58 caps)
5 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 10 caps)
6 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 10 caps)
7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 9 caps) VC   
8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 41 caps)
 
Finishers
16 Jack Singleton (Saracens, uncapped)
17 Joe Marler (Harlequins, 59 caps)
18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, 17 caps)
19 George Kruis (Saracens, 32 caps)
20 Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
21 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 85 caps)
22 Joe Marchant (Harlequins, uncapped)
23 Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 4 caps)
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 12:12* »
That is a pretty underwhelming team.

Good luck to Joe and Jow though

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 12:15* »
That is a pretty underwhelming team.

Good luck to Joe and Jow though

Personally a bit annoyed coz clearly a reserve side to test fringe players and I'd hoped to get my money's worth from the game. But if you aren't going to give the "maybe" players a chance now then when....the Heinz thing though is just ridiculous.

Jones and Care should have thrashed out whatever happened between them. DC was on fire last season. All too late now.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 12:33* »
Was just telling a work mate, I don't understand Eddie Jones any more. I hope this is some cunning plan that I'm just too thick to see.

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 12:38* »
The Heinz thing is incomprehensible.

He's a journeyman at the end of his career. Decent player but not stellar.

We've had 4 years to test out scrum halves, we thought we knew who was going in place of Care but then he dropped them both after barely any games.

So now we may well have a bloke who will have about 100 mins of international rugby experience as our replacement 9 at a World Cup.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 12:49* »
Was DC on fire last season?  For me, he was wholly inconsistent for Quins and - in the limited England game time that he had, he was poor.

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 13:24* »
I'd say care had a really good season until he got injured

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 13:33* »
When I saw this teamsheet I finally gave into the fact that there just is no understanding Eddie Jones.

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 13:45* »
EJ has won 16 of 18 games as part of the coaching set up across 3 World Cups. Have faith my brothers and sisters....
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 14:02* »
Quite, Deadly.

The reaction to the squad is, in my view, ridiculous.

If England don't make AT LEAST the semi finals, I will be very surprised. 

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 14:45* »
I'm less concerned what Eddie has done with completely different groups of players with completely different cultural mentalities at completely different times and against completely different opposition. I'm concerned about what he's done with England's players - particularly over the last couple of years, which has been inconsistent to say the least.

Not to be pessimistic but I'll be pleasantly surprised and will gladly admit that I was wrong about Eddie if this England squad end up in the final. Okay, I'm pessimistic.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 15:00* »
Quite, Deadly.

The reaction to the squad is, in my view, ridiculous.

If England don't make AT LEAST the semi finals, I will be very surprised.

They haven't announced the squad. And most of the reaction is from people who only watch rugby twice a year and think Goode, Wade and Kvesik are international standard players.

But I simply do not understand Heinz at all. Someone needs to explain how you decide to drop Care (fair enough if that's what happens) then you give a couple of other players no time at all, then you ditch them both with three matches until the World Cup and bring in....someone with no particular track record beyond being a club standard starting 9.
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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 16:06* »
Who covers 10 if Capt Ford gets injured ?   Wales back row will be all over him .

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 16:14* »
If Ford gets injured, Slade moves to 10. 

It's a warm up game - the side put out is nothing like the 15 we will see in the WC

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Re: Marchant on bench v Wales
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09-Aug-2019, 16:40* »
If Ford gets injured, Slade moves to 10. 

It's a warm up game - the side put out is nothing like the 15 we will see in the WC

Indeed, and anyone reacting with outrage across the broader side being played for this specific match doesn't know much about rugby.

But the Heinz and Francis stuff is just incomprehensible. They add nothing that the squad didn't have/has got, it doesn't fit with any tactic that I can work out - nor indeed many other people.

What type of rugby does this side reflect? Why are we going into yet another World Cup not knowing who is starting in the centres.


 

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