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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 12:05* »
My biggest moan is the lack of consistency with refereeing, if the Manu tackle is a red the Parkes tackle is also a red.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 12:34* »
Seemed to be plenty of mitigating circumstances to downgrade from a red, a yellow would have been more suitable I think. I didnít see what Genge was actually done for, can anyone tell me?
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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 12:41* »
Clear red for manu. No arms, shoulder to head, reckless. North may have been going down but so was Manu. It was just a flying charge not a tackle

Be really irritating if we lose Joe now for that. Such an odd thing to do anyway
I have to say, a bit like Eddie, Iím not sure what else he could do at that speed and height.  His arms were forward and I suspect he would have wrapped if the Welsh guy had not beeen so low.  I get ultimately you are responsible for the outcomes, but given the stage the game was at, would we have expected / preferred him to just wave him through, with a Ďthereís nothing I can safely doí?

Donít we want the rules applied with a sensitivity to the context ? 

The idea that Marler could be out for 12wks for what was just a bit of wind up ( especially as it appears AWJ had been systematically winding up Sinkler in the 2nd half last time they met with no one stopping him)

I think refs do have a tough job, and didnít spot much yesterdayís one got wrong, it does seem a bit of a post code lottery what any one will decide
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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 12:49* »

 I do not believe any action will be taken against Joe mainly because of insufficient evidence and what there is won't stand up.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 13:02* »
The way that Sir played advantage for knock ons was unusual.

He missed an obvious forward pass, but I can understand that as he was not in line.

I thought that he missed a badly scew line out.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 13:24* »
His knock on advantages were more like penalty advantages, but only for Wales.
I also agree about the Parks tackle on Manu, if Manu's tackle on North was red so was Parkes on Manu....
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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 18:55* »
Ok then , next harlequins womenís match is it ok for a player to tweak a nipple on the opposition? Thought not 12 week ban coming

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 18:58* »
Ok then , next harlequins womenís match is it ok for a player to tweak a nipple on the opposition? Thought not 12 week ban coming

If they are mates/know each other, and its a bit of a wind up, why not. As long as they dont shake hands

12 weeks for tickling someones balls, give me strength
« Last Edit: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 19:02* by honkytonk »

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 08-Mar-2020, 19:21* »
Ok then , next harlequins womenís match is it ok for a player to tweak a nipple on the opposition?

Have you been watching those special DVDs again?

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #39 on: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 07:22* »
Simple one for citing committee . Wonít see him until next season now ... idiot
World Rugby law 9.27 says ďA player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship including but not limited to grabbing, twisting or squeezing the genitalsĒ. If action is taken and Marler is found guilty the offence has a low end punishment of 12 weeks to a maximum penalty of 208 weeks.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #40 on: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 09:07* »
Simple one for citing committee . Wonít see him until next season now ... idiot
World Rugby law 9.27 says ďA player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship including but not limited to grabbing, twisting or squeezing the genitalsĒ. If action is taken and Marler is found guilty the offence has a low end punishment of 12 weeks to a maximum penalty of 208 weeks.

You omit the fact that they can also reduce sentences for what they believe to be me mitigation. You also forget that he hasn't been charged, let alone found guilty. You further forget that you're not actually the arbiter of anything in this matter.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #41 on: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 09:33* »
12 weeks means weíll lose Joe for the remainder of the season.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #42 on: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 09:37* »
To be fair, by the letter of the law Marler can have no complaints if he cops a ban for this. It may have been intended as a bit of tomfoolery  but itís against the rules.

I think itís necessary to maintain a Ďrugby perspectiveí here and not over react. But he did something against the rules to get one over his opponent and if heís duly punished I wonít be surprised. Hopefully Iím wrong and he gets away with it, otherwise itís a big loss for Quins.

I would say - if punished I fully expect it to be at the entry point. Hopefully Marler has the sense to apologise and hold his hands up in that event, and it may get reduced slightly. By my reckoning, 12 weeks would see him banned until the last game of the season, against Tigers.

Edit: Just seen that others have said he will be out for the whole season. Iím not sure and happy to stand corrected if thatís the case. Not good either way!
« Last Edit: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 09:43* by Fish Quin »
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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #43 on: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 09:39* »
For clarity, Bampotbill has added in the second half of the quote of the laws. When you download the official World Rugby Law book (available HERE) you can see that law 9.27 in its entirety is
Quote from: Law 9.27
A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship.

You have made a clear attempt both here and on another thread to push this agenda, bampotbill. I call on you to withdraw the postings and apologize.

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Re: Marlers tickle on AWJ
« Reply #44 on: Monday 09-Mar-2020, 09:49* »
Fred, to be fair it does say it here:

https://www.world.rugby/handbook/regulations/reg-17/appendix-1?lang=en

Iím not sure why they are different, but I donít think Bampot is deliberately misleading people.

 

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