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Marler

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Mike Brown at 11
« on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:13* »
Any astute observers out there who can provide the rationale behind Mike Brown moving to Left Wing for England and now Quins?

Whatever the logic, it seems to be working. A couple of tries against SA, and  Morris looked like a class act at 15 on Saturday.


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WellingQuin

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:16* »
Well against Sale last Saturday, maybe it was to counter the threat of Solomona? I think someone else mentioned that as well.

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:20* »
 -Perhaps a 'request' has come in from Eddie Jones..?
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Marler

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:24* »
Well against Sale last Saturday, maybe it was to counter the threat of Solomona? I think someone else mentioned that as well.


That's possible WQ, but doesn't explain the earlier England switch.

Marler

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:25* »
-Perhaps a 'request' has come in from Eddie Jones..?


Maybe, but it's the reasoning I'm interested in. Any views?

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:43* »
I have no inside knowledge and wondered the same thing. Think we can assume a call from Eddie was part of it and Gustard would have been part of the initial decision at England.

My thought was is it to do with kick chase, we know Mike is one of if not the best in the world in the air defensively, but he chased every kick we put up on Saturday like a demon and made a couple of tackles and was competitive in the air.

Perhaps we are kicking more and need better kick chasers. Lots of teams also kick to the wings and again he is strong defensively in that regard as well. Just a thought!
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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:44* »
EJ has said he is always impressed with Mike Browns defensive abilities , and Full Backs in general as a last line of defence read the game well and are good tacklers .

Gustard selecting 3 players who have played at FB   in Earle , Morris and Brown ticks all boxes as they have speed and tackling ability and can cover each other if 2 get dragged forward .

Perhaps  the coaching team feel AM is the quickest of the 3 ? , certainly the break for Earles try last week shows he has plenty of gas .

Im sure Walker , Visser etc will be spurred on to improve their defence.

Gustard's speciality is defence and shipping tries has been our biggest problem , I think  he will try to fix that first , then build on it .

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 09:56* »
It could equally have been that Gustard was involved in the decision with England to move him to wing (as opposed to an Eddie request).

From my perspective, if there is a flickering concern about Mike's pace, then he is better protected on the wing as it gives him the touchline to work with.  It also gives an added benefit of a second player who is strong under the high ball, as well as a second kicking option.
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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 10:04* »
Maybe they just feel that the qualities he offers are still ones they want in the team, but that he has lost his top end pace and so is not as affective at counter attacking from fullback, so better to have someone faster there with him on the wing.

He's done pretty well there so far given how badly many, including me, thought it would go. I'm still not convinced it's the best long term option, but maybe it's not seen as a long term option.
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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 10:08* »
Eddie’s line before the SA series was that they saw an opportunity in having a winger who could attack the breakdown and around the breakdown - Mike has long been one of the most aggressive and effective outside backs at the breakdown, and his running style suits attacking the fringes and tying up defenders.
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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 10:14* »
Eddie’s line before the SA series was that they saw an opportunity in having a winger who could attack the breakdown and around the breakdown - Mike has long been one of the most aggressive and effective outside backs at the breakdown, and his running style suits attacking the fringes and tying up defenders.

It also means you can get Eliot Daly on at Full Back. I think that's his best position if he's playing as an outside back, and our best option there (not convinced Watson is right in the FB role internationally).
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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 10:15* »
Brown was like a man possessed at the breakdown on Saturday. He must have had his face buried in the business end of 10 or more and got at least one steal, one that led to a try.

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 10:28* »
Maybe there is an element of preparing for Mike not being around, and they want to give Morris a run at fullback? Or maybe it's simply squad/position rotation? And the added bonus is it will (hopefully) fire up Visser and Walker, both of whom possess excellent qualities. AT some point I think we'll be able to select wingers based upon our game plan, rather than stick with first / only choices.

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Re: Mike Brown at 11
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06-Sep-2018, 10:39* »
Felt to me like it was a directive from England, something that was mentioned either in commentary or on the highlights (forget which).

As MB is expert under the high ball, is solid in defence and has a good boot, and as someone who played a lot at 15, I can only surmise that they want more pace with which to counter attack from deep. Judging by the try Morris set up for Earle, the decision seems to have merits, especially as Daly will replicate the role for England with extreme pace.
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