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O/t London Scottish
« on: Thursday 02-Jul-2020, 18:22* »
Are moving out of Richmond at the end of next season.
They will be ground sharing with Esher until they find a new home

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02-Jul-2020, 22:27* »
After sharing the RAG for 127 years they have decided after the RFU funding cuts announcement this year, that two amateur Championship Teams can no longer share one ground .Apparently they have been discussing this for the last four years. Scottish need an independent revenue stream as they don’t get any money from the activities at Richmond as they are only tenants. (there’s a Scottish beer pun for you).

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 08:22* »
Is the rent 80/- or 90/- per game...
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 09:14* »
Is the rent 80/- or 90/- per game...

I saw what you did there.
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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 11:14* »
I don't get it?

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 11:19* »
Beer in Scotland used to be taxed in terms of shillings on the barrel based on the specific gravity. Tennants had brews of different strengths (rather like Youngs Bitter and Special) that became known based on the tax paid, and the name has stuck til today.

It used to be common in Scottish pubs to hear people asking for a pint of eighty shilling. Not so much right now, obvs.
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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 11:19* »
80 shillings and 90 shillings are terms for Scottish beer

80/- is "Heavy" I think??
90/- is "wee Heavy" - or special brew (I think???)

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 11:25* »
Ohhhhhh! Right, thanx.

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 12:19* »
80 shillings is a lovely pint

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03-Jul-2020, 13:16* »
Full article here - https://londonscottish.com/london-scottish-to-leave-richmond-athletic-ground-after-127-years/

Sounds like they have ambitious plans and already have some locations in mind for a permanent home.

South-West and West London is quite a congested area for decent rugby teams with Quins, London Irish, London Scottish, Richmond and Ealing in the Premiership/Championship.

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 05-Jul-2020, 06:47* »
After sharing the RAG for 127 years they have decided after the RFU funding cuts announcement this year, that two amateur Championship Teams can no longer share one ground .Apparently they have been discussing this for the last four years. Scottish need an independent revenue stream as they don’t get any money from the activities at Richmond as they are only tenants. (there’s a Scottish beer pun for you).

They had a falling out with the Scottish RFU in 2016. They have now decided to move to Esher for two years before getting their own ground in SW London. Well - that won't be a problem, will it?

London Scottish announces today it is to move on from the home it has shared with Richmond FC since 1894.
The two clubs this week agreed an amicable parting of the ways after four years of negotiations over their future together.
The decision was driven by the operational difficulties of the Richmond Athletic Ground hosting two competing Championship clubs on the same ground and by London Scottish’s need to secure its commercial sustainability. London Scottish will play one final season there and will move in the summer of 2021. 
London Scottish President Paul Burnell said: “We have been looking for some time at the long-term future for our club, which will be 150 years old in 2028. By then we will be well settled in a new permanent home where we can maximise the revenue required to deliver on our exciting plans.
“We will be presenting those plans, our Vision 150, to members, shareholders, sponsors and supporters later this month, along with the three-to-five-year pathway for achieving all our objectives.”
The club said the 1st XV will temporarily play at the home of Esher RFC from 2021-22 for at least two seasons. It will shortly agree a venue for the rest of the club, while it concludes negotiations for its new permanent home.
“We have identified a number of sites for a new permanent home in South West London, where we can develop all our activities, from minis and juniors and girls’ rugby, through to touch and amateur rugby and of course sustain our professional 1st XV at the highest achievable level.
“By moving, we will also be able to increase engagement with our local community, expanding our support for children in need and their parents and teachers, which is just not practical at Richmond, who themselves have extensive community programmes.”
“it will be an enormous emotional wrench to leave our old home after 127 years. I played most of my adult rugby there and, like my team mates and those who played before me and since, I formed precious, lifelong friendships with Richmond as well as London Scottish players. Each year the clubs stand together at the war memorial we built together, to remember the hundreds of our two clubs’ former players who gave their lives.”
The club is already discussing with Richmond how to make this final season a true celebration of a rich and shared history, and the two Championship matches between the clubs promise to be special occasions.
London Scottish Chairman Malcolm Offord added: “Like Paul, I will always cherish memories of playing at the Athletic Ground and forging friendships with team mates and Richmond rivals alike. But we have an exciting future ahead of us with partners keen to invest in and support our plans once we move, and the whole club will benefit.”
Commenting on the decision, Richmond Rugby Chairman Nick Preston said: “It’s an emotional moment for both clubs but, like London Scottish, we increasingly feel the Athletic Ground cannot support two competing and ambitious clubs, and this is the right decision for both of us. But we are going to celebrate one final season together, and matches between us at all levels from 1st XV to minis will always be very special.”

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05-Jul-2020, 08:35* »
I have to wonder how they think they can afford to build their own facility anywhere in the SW of London & the surrounding counties. London Irish were looking at this for years before they agreed the groundshare with Brentford at the Lionel Road. Wasps similarly were looking for a long time at how to move back to London before giving up and relocating to Coventry. If they want their own revenue stream & facilities for not just their first XV but their amateur & age-group teams as well they'll need a lot of space with reasonable travel links. I can't see anywhere in the right area that they could afford to buy & develop on.

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05-Jul-2020, 08:54* »
My impression is that they don't currently have a huge supporter base or a large number of age grade teams. So, they may be in a position that they can up sticks and move to anywhere relatively easily. I would have thought that ground sharing with a non League football club would be a good option for them.
Their average attendance is around 1200. I suspect that a lot of non League football clubs could easily accommodate that number of fans

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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05-Jul-2020, 09:21* »
My impression is that they don't currently have a huge supporter base or a large number of age grade teams. So, they may be in a position that they can up sticks and move to anywhere relatively easily. I would have thought that ground sharing with a non League football club would be a good option for them.
Their average attendance is around 1200. I suspect that a lot of non League football clubs could easily accommodate that number of fans
But if they do that, they're not really going to get a better financial arrangement than the one they have currently at RAG. If anything, it would potentially make them worse off.
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Re: O/t London Scottish
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 05-Jul-2020, 10:06* »
My impression is that they don't currently have a huge supporter base or a large number of age grade teams. So, they may be in a position that they can up sticks and move to anywhere relatively easily. I would have thought that ground sharing with a non League football club would be a good option for them.
Their average attendance is around 1200. I suspect that a lot of non League football clubs could easily accommodate that number of fans

From an age-grade perspective, they have used King's House Sports Ground in Chiswick as overspill for youth games when congestion between two clubs on a Sunday morning means they can't get a pitch in Richmond. 

 

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