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TomBuckQuin

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/48037112

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Topsy Ojo: London Irish legend wants investment in stronger Championship
   
By Chris Jones
BBC rugby union correspondent

London Irish were promoted back to the Premiership with a win at Richmond
English rugby needs structural change to make promotion and relegation work, says London Irish great Topsy Ojo.

Irish sealed a return to the Premiership at the weekend, meaning for the third season in a row the relegated side has instantly bounced back.

"There is not enough investment in the Championship to make promotion viable," Ojo said.

"It is 13 teams really [who can play in the Premiership], so how do we bridge that gap?"

The former England winger added on the Rugby Union Weekly podcast: "I would love to see a better standard of Championship, that actually makes the flow of promotion and relegation a bit more open."

While supporting the idea of promotion and relegation, Ojo has called for a short period of ring-fencing in order to give ambitious teams time to prepare for a Premiership push.

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"Cornish Pirates have this stadium coming which is going to be brilliant for rugby in their region. Nottingham have huge plans, Ealing the same. But they are not ready right now," Ojo explained.

"So if there was a way that you could potentially ring-fence for two to three years with guaranteed investment, that would appeal to these clubs to say 'right, if you are serious about being a Premiership team, here are some extra finances'.

"Build your infrastructure, build your playing squad, and then we open the gates and get a real viable flow, with five or six teams fighting for promotion and relegation year in and year out.

"It would make for a brilliant competition all round."

'Irish can't be a yo-yo club'

Ojo, who has played a record 300 times for his boyhood club, says next season is crucial for the Exiles as they try to re-establish themselves as one of the top teams in English rugby.

Irish have already confirmed the signings of internationals such as Ireland flanker Sean O'Brien and Australia scrum-half Nick Phipps, and are also believed to be close to announcing deals for All Blacks wing Waisake Naholo and Wallaby lock Adam Coleman.

The club, which currently plays at the Madejski Stadium, home of Reading FC, will also move to a new ground in west London - Brentford Football Club's new stadium which is under construction - in time for the 2020/21 season.

"Next year is so big for this club," Ojo added.

"If we can move to Brentford as a Premiership team, with the stars we have signed and with a growing academy, you've got the makings of something really fruitful for the future.

"We don't want to be a yo-yo team. You get caught in that and can't get out. We have bounced up once or twice now, and we can't do it again.

"It is going to be so competitive next season with everyone scrapping, and we have to be the same."

What he said.

Fursty

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I think Irish will seriously struggle next year, can't see them putting together a squad that will compete consistently with the rest of the league.

TomBuckQuin

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I think Irish will seriously struggle next year, can't see them putting together a squad that will compete consistently with the rest of the league.

Funny, I predict the opposite. The signings named in that article really bolster their squad and add a proper dash of class (Naholo!) I fully expect them to "do a Bristol", re-establishing and consolidating their place in the Prem with some serious style along the way.

The Prem has been more competitive than ever this season - but I think that's the way it's going to be now. While there are still a couple of teams I would expect to struggle more than others, I can no longer say with any genuine confidence who I think is going to be embroiled at the bottom come end of next season. Worcester I think will struggle after losing Heem and Adams and a few others, but I'm sure they'll be replaced and I just don't think any team can afford to rest on their laurels any more - whichever team does so puts themselves at risk of relegation.
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I’d introduce a two down two up scheme. Top of championship automatic and then playoffs for 2-5. At least would mix things up a bit. Sadly with the ground requirements most would struggle anyway.

TomBuckQuin

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And that's precisely why I think the whole thing needs ringfencing temporarily - let 5/6 Championship clubs focus on making viable strides towards a Prem-level stadium and squad base rather than just treading water. While ringfencing promotion/relegation, also ringfence some funds for those Champ clubs that show real intent on pushing for promotion. I don't quite know what to do about those clubs who have publicly said they don't want promotion and would rather stay at Champ level - although I'm sure that's all down to money so if the RFU wants serious competitive professional rugby in this country then the funding needs to be made available to the Championship clubs.

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Surprising that a guy whose team has been relegated on their last 2 visits to the Prem wants no relegation.

Personally if there is no promotion or relegation I will not renew my ST and will just go to the odd game I fancy.  I have no interest in watching a game where at least 21 team has nothing to play for.  I know the argument will be that the chase will be for top 6 but realistically any team that comes 6th is just making up the numbers in the European Cup. 

To me the most interesting part of any league is the relegation battle and I think that stress and pressure should be part of any sport.

I am sure this will come in and I will then get a ST at Spurs and visit Quins occasionally.  From talking other peopkle I know I think I will nit be alone in not bothering. 

Horses for courses, we all like different things it is just not for me. 

Agree totally with Tom that there needs to be more funding for championship clubs.   Personally I have no interest at all in women's rugby, I am all for anyone who plays sport but it is not of any interest to me and would like to see that money diverted.  I am sure some will be offended by that but hey ho. 

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I get what you're saying Marlowish but this season is the first in a fair old while that relegation hasn't been effectively decided by about February at the latest. There just hasn't been much of a battle for a long time.

I say this as someone who is in favour of relegation generally.

TomBuckQuin

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Want to make clear that I also want promotion/relegation. Would be nice to get to a 2 up, 2 down system as MaidstoneQuin suggests above - but I do think ringfencing temporarily is going to be the only way to get to a place where it's no longer a given that the team that goes down comes straight back up. I'd just like us to have two competitive leagues at the top of the English game in which getting relegated doesn't feel like you've been sent to play with your younger sibling's friends and also doesn't feel like you're in the amateur wilderness.

Currently, Championship clubs just want to make it through season-to-season and can't make any real push towards meaningful improvement. Give them a few years (maybe a WC cycle) of security and investment to sort themselves out and then open the turnstiles again.

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I fear that years of ringfencing will not encourage investment in The Championship in any way. I certainly wouldn't bet one of my Mortgages on it.

TomBuckQuin

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I fear that years of ringfencing will not encourage investment in The Championship in any way. I certainly wouldn't bet one of my Mortgages on it.

The way I'm envisaging it would be that the promise of investment is all part of the same agreement that brings about temporary ringfencing. Without that investment then, of course, the status quo remains until such time as the RFU is prepared to bring the Championship into the 21st century. I would just like it to happen asap so the game can really push on.

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My issue with temporary ring-fencing is I can see an unintended consequence.

If the Prem teams have had two years (or however long) to blood players and try things with no consequence of failure, I can’t see a downside for the Prem teams.

As a result, the Prem will get even stronger making it even harder for the (eventually) promoted club to stay up.

JammyGit

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I want a financially healthy sport that doesn't damage itself and its players, and promotion/relegation currently acts contrary to that.

Yareet

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I want a financially healthy sport that doesn't damage itself and its players, and promotion/relegation currently acts contrary to that.

Are you suggesting that leagues with relegation are financially healthier? The Pro 14 (and Super Rugby I believe) would seem to indicate that the opposite.

 

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