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Author Topic: Quins to lose budding star??  (Read 1263 times)

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honkytonk

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deadlyfrom5yardsout

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 09:06* »
Its all a bit of a merry go round isn't it?

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 10:33* »
I don't blame them - the Irish set up has a smaller player pool, with less competition for international places, and better player welfare, so if it's an option it's one that any budding player should look at seriously. But it does bother me a little that Ireland seem to be so effective at targeting players.

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 10:55* »
Some other, only marginally less talented, player has missed out on a place in the EPDG for him.

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 12:43* »
keeping on his Mum's good side ;-)

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 12:51* »
Some other, only marginally less talented, player has missed out on a place in the EPDG for him.

Doubt it, there's no limit on numbers in the EPDG as far as I'm aware. If you're good enough, you're in

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 13:32* »
Known him since he was 10, superb player......tall, strong with an ability to find space where none exists! (Lynagh jnr has signed for us though!)

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 13:54* »
Doubt it, there's no limit on numbers in the EPDG as far as I'm aware. If you're good enough, you're in

In theoretical terms, yes. In practical terms, no. I don't know the exact structure of the Quins one, but the London Irish Developing Player Programme looks at a couple of hundred boys at U14-16, with around 10 automatically carried forward each year (the others are invited to trial again each time), and the list trims down quite sharply as they get into the Silver and Gold DPP (the equivalent of our EPDG)

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 13:57* »
Presumably there are budget constraints if nothing else? And then I assume only enough staff to develop X number of players...

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 15:03* »
In theoretical terms, yes. In practical terms, no. I don't know the exact structure of the Quins one, but the London Irish Developing Player Programme looks at a couple of hundred boys at U14-16, with around 10 automatically carried forward each year (the others are invited to trial again each time), and the list trims down quite sharply as they get into the Silver and Gold DPP (the equivalent of our EPDG)
Unless it's changed in the last 5 years Quins is different to Irish (whose system I'd heard about) Quins would cherry pick boys to look at throughout the season. If they saw something in a game, (Jim Evans and Howard Graham went to loads of games to view players in the EPDG and those of interest who weren't). It did'nt matter what position you played or how many were already in the EPDG, if you piqued their interest you were invited along to the EPDG. You might only last 2-3 Monday nights once they got to work with you but if they thought you had potential to make it as a pro then you were kept around until the 'final' decision at 18.

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 15:08* »
Presumably there are budget constraints if nothing else? And then I assume only enough staff to develop X number of players...
I doubt it, other than the coaches salary, the lads are there at their own cost (bank of mum and dad's taxi etc). There's no food drinks supplied, cost of the pitches I suppose but that's not really a numbers issue. There were always odd coaches going along, possibly doing their next level badge etc.

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 15:35* »
I don't blame them - the Irish set up has a smaller player pool, with less competition for international places, and better player welfare, so if it's an option it's one that any budding player should look at seriously. But it does bother me a little that Ireland seem to be so effective at targeting players.
different lifestyle and rugby players get hefty tax breaks which helps

Harleys Evil Step Mum

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02-Apr-2019, 17:39* »
Quins let Luke Green (now England U18 front row) go at 15! #oops

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Re: Quins to lose budding star??
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03-Apr-2019, 10:29* »
Good luck to him if that's where he thinks his career is best progressed . No point talking pragmatism to teenagers , much better they make their own decisions , and in many respects being a 'bigger fish in a small pond ' is not a bad one , and no doubt he loves his Irish heritage as much as his English one so no issues really.

It was great to see Kieran score his charge down try for Ulster last weekend , the only thing that is slightly irritating is the habit of capping young players in meaningless International Tours to capture them , then sending them off to see how they shape up for the future - Treadwell and Lang fall into that category ( with countless others , so its certainly not just an Irish thing )

 

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