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Chipstead Quin

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Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 10:40* »
Im sure most saw the unusual end to the game , Bath end up with 11 due to a red and 3 yellows at 83 , 87 and 94 mins

I don't understand why at least 1 Bath player wasnt allowed back on , as I understand , a Yellow card is for 10 minutes of playing time . he was carded at 83 mins but the game went on to 98 ?

If it had been in the first half any time played over the 40 mins is counted so why not at the end of the 2nd half?

My best guess is that cards over 80 are deemed final because law makers hadn't anticipated games to go over 90 mins , but that's clearly not the case .

Any friendly refs that can help ?

nowexnavyquin

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 10:52* »
Didn't something similat happen in a Wales v France 6 nations game with the Welsh player coming back on even when sin binned after the 80 mins had passed.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 10:57* »
I think that there was a lot of stoppage time in between play and that there hadn't actually been 10 minutes of play so none of the yellow cards had elapsed.

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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 11:20* »
The clock doesn't stop in over time so actually only 6+ minutes of actual play, there were lots of stoppages in the 19 mins

Chipstead Quin

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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 11:29* »
Didn't something similat happen in a Wales v France 6 nations game with the Welsh player coming back on even when sin binned after the 80 mins had passed.

Yes , that what made me think about it , it was Wayne Barnes' 100 minute match in 2017- not sure the Welsh have forgiven him yet though .

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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 11:33* »
The key difference there of course being that Bath didn't try to manipulate proceedings to force uncontested scrums, which is what the French did. Rather admirable in a Charge of the Light Brigade sort of way.
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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 11:37* »
I read that Tempest stopped the clock after every scrum (and I think you can see that from the tv coverage) so there was not 10 minutes actual playing time so they coulkd not come back on.

Chipstead Quin

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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 12:01* »

Thanks to stoquin and jjquin, that would answer it -

Presumably that means that if it had gone on to 10mins of playing time after Lahiff had been carded he could have come back on .?

But who was counting that ? , it certainly isnt  very transparent after the 80 mins is up is it ?






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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 12:15* »
Yeah, not sure why there has to be a different rule on stopping the clock after 80. For consistency just continue to stop the clock!

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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 12:17* »
There should have been a penalty try earlier on anyway really. If after the final Brew yellow they had failed to score, or missed the conversion, the refusal to give a penalty try despite a 3-0 overlap would have been criticised I think.

Fair play to tempest though for having the guts to give those cards, all correctly imo. Most refs I reckon would have bottled it. Good to see him get that right after two poor TMO decisions in the Wasps and Tigers games.
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nowexnavyquin

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 19:14* »
Yes , that what made me think about it , it was Wayne Barnes' 100 minute match in 2017- not sure the Welsh have forgiven him yet though .

That's one I was thinking about, I remember being a tad annoyed as the staff in the Temple Walkabout didn't switch the TVs over to the England match until that one finished.

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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08-Jan-2019, 21:47* »
Fair play to Blackadder for not suggesting he had no fit props left, which would have resulted in uncontested scrums and a possible Bath win.
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Re: Warriors Bath Yellow Cards
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09-Jan-2019, 13:37* »
There should have been a penalty try earlier on anyway really. If after the final Brew yellow they had failed to score, or missed the conversion, the refusal to give a penalty try despite a 3-0 overlap would have been criticised I think.

Fair play to tempest though for having the guts to give those cards, all correctly imo. Most refs I reckon would have bottled it. Good to see him get that right after two poor TMO decisions in the Wasps and Tigers games.

You can only give a penalty try if a probable try would have been scored, not just for persistent penalties. So the referee was absolutely right not to award a PT.
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