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Rugby is dead - red card
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The Quin of England:
I think fans and players need to decide amongst themselves what sort of sport RU is to become. Do we want a contact sport with risk or should it become something else? Boxing and martial arts are still socially acceptable. In my opinion this is ruining the game.
deadlyfrom5yardsout:
In my opinion, the players have control of the matter in their own hands in the majority of cases.
The Quin of England:
Do they...really? Ben Curry was tackled by two irish players in the 2nd half, both their shoulders were bashing his head during the tackle. When making a tackle neither the tackler nor player getting tackled has any real control over where their head ends up. Should defenders avoid contact just because the ball carrier is leading with their head? Is that really the sport we want?
Sketchley:
Mixed feelings on this one.
On one hand ball carrier ran head first and head down directly into tackler which should have been mitigation.
On the other, tackler made no attempt to tackle, could see it coming and turned and braced for impact thereby leading with the shoulder.
The tackler should either have attempted a proper tackle or got out of the way, the decision to turn and brace was wrong one and caused a head injury.
KentQuin:
--- Quote from: Sketchley on Sunday 19-Mar-2023, 08:56* ---Mixed feelings on this one.
On one hand ball carrier ran head first and head down directly into tackler which should have been mitigation.
On the other, tackler made no attempt to tackle, could see it coming and turned and braced for impact thereby leading with the shoulder.
The tackler should either have attempted a proper tackle or got out of the way, the decision to turn and brace was wrong one and caused a head injury.
--- End quote ---
Good summary, although Keenan doesn't run head first and head down. He momemtarily stoops to collect a bouncing ball. I don't think you quite meant it like that Sketchley, but I think it's important to distinguish it from the tap and goes we see near the line where props/hookers charge forward with their nose about an inch of the ground...
For me the sudden change of height of Keenan should be a mitigating factor, but presumably as he's not attempting a legal tackle mitigation can't be applied, hence the red.
The question is does Steward have time to make a legal tackle and Peyper thought the answer to that was yes.
It is a tough one, as ninety-nine times out of a hundred a block like that doesn't result in head contact and its a simple penalty only call.
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