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Author Topic: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals  (Read 1255 times)

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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 10:19* »
A shame we don't appear to be in the market for any of them
would quite like Singleton maybe Isiekwe and Spencer

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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 10:49* »
Saracens seem to be trying to make them loans rather than selling them. Assume you'd have to give them back season after next. Would rather we carried on building our team. Also Gustard sets a lot of score by attitud/buy in to the squad. Not sure Saracens players would have that.
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 12:27* »
I hope no one borrows any of their players. Why should the cheated help The Cheats?
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 14:40* »
Can somebody tell me, if Saracens are just loaning out their players for a season, and then wanting them back when promotion day arrives, how (unless all their players agree to take a sizeable cut in pay), the club will not continue to be in breach of the Salary Cap, assuming of course that it will still be in place at that time?
Can we also assume that as things currently stand, unless the players have agreed to a pay cut, they continue to cheat, and as long as that situation continues, they will never be allowed back in the Premiership? But once again, that assumption is on the basis that the goal posts will not be moved by a significant margin.

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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 15:37* »
No idea why any team would have someone on loan. Leave and sign with a new club or stay and play in the Championship.

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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19-Feb-2020, 16:46* »
they will be losing some players permanently according to that article like Kruis to Japan etc so not all going on loan to come back. Personally I'm glad we aren't having a loan player or two from them, lets build our own squad of players who want to the there and are there in two years time.
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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20-Feb-2020, 11:19* »
There are two things here - firstly, if this is really a loan deal, then I could only see that being viable as long-term injury cover, or for a team that is struggling and could do with a boost in a particular position which may help them avoid relegation or achieve promotion. As relegation is already done this season, that's unlikely. Helping in a run for a premiership title or a cup competition? Maybe. From our point of view, we are suffering with injuries in many areas, so if we could borrow a centre for a while, that might be a thought (not condoning what Sarries have done, and not wanting to support them, of course). Although, as it seems Quins were one of the prime movers in the information gathering that has lead to this sorry state of affairs, not sure they would want to come to us.

Secondly - permanent signing. Whilst you would hope that some of the players had the nous to realise that something was rotten in the state of Denmark Saracens, I am guessing that not all were on these megadeals. If there is an up-and-comer in the ranks who is looking for a chance to shine in the prem, and it really is a proper non-loan deal, again I'd be inclined to trust the club to make that decision and integrate those players into Quins. In this case, there are likely to be some question marks over their "stars", who really should have known something was up.

At the end of the day, we want the best for Quins. If someone like, for example, Isiekwe was available as a permanent signing, would we really turn our noses up at him, if he brought a benefit to the club and could be integrated into the squad?

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Re: Saracens are set to lose SIX England internationals
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20-Feb-2020, 12:21* »
I'd have no problem signing any of their players if they are in positions we need to strengthen, if the price is right and if they are permanent deals.

I don't really see why we'd want a one year loan, unless it was in a position where we're looking to sign a replacement but can't for another year because they have commitments elsewhere.

 

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