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Author Topic: Some History of the Loyalty Wall  (Read 879 times)

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harlequins

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06-Jul-2018, 04:48* »
Agreed. He may have been a fine player but as a defence coach he has some improvement to go.

Grins

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06-Jul-2018, 12:40* »
Am on the loyalty wall, but still have mixed feelings about subsidising Saville etc.  particularly to the extent that it is portrayed as saving people from redundancy.   It loyalty, charity or stupidity.  I still can't decide. Some combination of the three probably.

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #17 on: Friday 06-Jul-2018, 13:52* »
Am on the loyalty wall, but still have mixed feelings about subsidising Saville etc.  particularly to the extent that it is portrayed as saving people from redundancy.   It loyalty, charity or stupidity.  I still can't decide. Some combination of the three probably.

Know what you mean!

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 08-Jul-2018, 15:52* »
Am on the loyalty wall, but still have mixed feelings about subsidising Saville etc.  particularly to the extent that it is portrayed as saving people from redundancy.   It loyalty, charity or stupidity.  I still can't decide. Some combination of the three probably.

Saville and Quins' other backers have bankrolled the club to the tune of 10m or more over the last 20 years, with no realistic prospect of earning it back in the short term. Might they have been able to stave off relegation by acting earlier? Maybe. But it still went down to the last kick of the last game. Should they have been prepared to bankroll a larger operation than the club needed during our year in ND1? Maybe, maybe not, but faced with reduced income it's not unreasonable that they should cut costs rather than run up the debt. There's no moral obligation on them to spend money on Quins, and it's likely that they ran up more debt in winning ND1 than our ND1 peers or they would have done in the Premiership.

The loyalty wall was a recognition that fans were prepared to share some of the pain of that year. In my view, both the club and the fans can be proud of it.

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08-Jul-2018, 16:17* »
To be fair to Saville, his figure is well over 10m. We've run up 6m debt in a season before. The East Stand was effectively paid for by him on top of running costs and I have a figure in my brain of around 7m for that?

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09-Jul-2018, 10:52* »
I'm not sure anyone can say that Saville has been subsidised - quite the opposite. Paying full whack during the ND1 season to save some staff's jobs was a very nice gesture and those who did it should be rightly proud, but I think to say they were subsidising Saville is a little wide of the mark

Grins

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09-Jul-2018, 18:15* »
Completely concede that Saville has subsidised my watching of professional rugby through the money he has put into Quins.  As you say, the loyalty wall was a nice gesture - just not a financially rational one!

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10-Jul-2018, 10:33* »
Loyalty, commitment and belief are not necessarily financially rational!

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Re: Some History of the Loyalty Wall
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 10-Jul-2018, 14:25* »
Loyalty, commitment and belief are not necessarily financially rational!
Well spotted

 

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