Am on the loyalty wall, but still have mixed feelings about subsidising Saville etc.  particularly to the extent that it is portrayed as saving people from redundancy.   It loyalty, charity or stupidity.  I still can't decide. Some combination of the three probably.

Am on the loyalty wall, but still have mixed feelings about subsidising Saville etc.  particularly to the extent that it is portrayed as saving people from redundancy.   It loyalty, charity or stupidity.  I still can't decide. Some combination of the three probably.

Saville and Quins' other backers have bankrolled the club to the tune of £10m or more over the last 20 years, with no realistic prospect of earning it back in the short term. Might they have been able to stave off relegation by acting earlier? Maybe. But it still went down to the last kick of the last game. Should they have been prepared to bankroll a larger operation than the club needed during our year in ND1? Maybe, maybe not, but faced with reduced income it's not unreasonable that they should cut costs rather than run up the debt. There's no moral obligation on them to spend money on Quins, and it's likely that they ran up more debt in winning ND1 than our ND1 peers or they would have done in the Premiership.

The loyalty wall was a recognition that fans were prepared to share some of the pain of that year. In my view, both the club and the fans can be proud of it.

I'm not sure anyone can say that Saville has been subsidised - quite the opposite. Paying full whack during the ND1 season to save some staff's jobs was a very nice gesture and those who did it should be rightly proud, but I think to say they were subsidising Saville is a little wide of the mark

Loyalty, commitment and belief are not necessarily financially rational!