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Re: Staff abused at Quins - this is a real disgrace
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We've discussed the issue of bar staff before. You're not going to get professional bar staff working at a rugby club bar. The requirement is for once a fortnight on a Friday or Saturday or Sunday anytime between 12:00 and 22:00. So the bar management get in casual bar staff. As the season goes on, the casual bar staff tend to become more experienced but that's not guaranteed. Add to that this is the start of the season and everything is unfamiliar, the surge of people before the game, the surge at half time, it is undoubtedly a bear pit. 

Without more detail, it's impossible to know if more staff could have mitigated the problem or whether everything was working at maximum capacity and someone was still upset. I'm sure the club are looking at the incident and will act on any findings. Whatever was the problem, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the fault of the poor bar staff that got abused.

I'm sure we've all made a comment like "Finally!" when we've got to the front of a queue, occasionally I've had to ask someone to top up a 3/4 full pint but actually laying into the bar staff is unacceptable. It's like shouting at the train guard when the train is late.

The OP is quite right, behaviour like this is disgraceful and it falls on us all to police it. We are proud of our standards in rugby, and someone let us down badly here.

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I find the bar staff in the outside bar behind the North stand and the one in the North East corner pretty good and friendly. The ones in the Robshaw bar can sometimes be a painfully slow. No reason to abuse them though.
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Absolutely awful, frankly. Its a shame that success seems to also attract one or two morons.

To be fair Deadly we had a few morons before we had any success.

Especially on here!
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Poor show from fans abusing staff. I'm a bit of a to$$er but not even I would abuse staff. Probably young, working for peanuts, doing the best they can with poor beer..  just not deserved.


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A BIG issue is the Red Zone by the tunnel....I have been coming years and my routine is always the same.....walk along the front and get my seat in either block FB or the south stand.....this is not now possible so I saw hundreds of folks being turned round and sent behind the West stand.....it was carnage!!! When the red zone ends it SHOULD get easier!!

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There is no excuse for abusing the staff, and I hope the idiot(s) get found out and banned.

With regards Laurie's comments, and general tone towards supporters, and insistence that the club is always right, it is worrying.

He blamed the supporters for ticket fiasco in home game 1, and even if he thought their messaging was crystal clear (clearly it wasn't if that many people turned up with the wrong one), there were numerous other ticketing issues that were the clubs fault (ie my issue was despite chasing in August, early Sept, and mid Sept, my sons new season ticket was never sent, even though they said it had been, and unknown to me it was waiting at the ticket office on the day of game - in those nightmare queues). I also know of other individual ticket circumstances at the fist game. 

He seems to have blamed supporter for turning up with 30 mins of kick off on game 2. I am not sure what he expects to happen on a Friday night game, they must have the data from previous ones..... His comment on '13,000 wanting a drink in 15 mins' is at best an exaggeration, but potentially trying to mislead (the bars where packed all night - when they still had beer  ::) - and I for one never went or had a drink from the bars all night - I am sure there were plenty like me).

These communications reminds me of the Muster quarter final when us supporters were told off for selling our tickets to Muster fans, no I didn't, I was there supporting my team, yet get told how disappointed the club were with me. Clearly that was pre-Laurie days, but the communication doesn't seem to have got any better.

It would have been so easy for the club to say, after both games, that they can see things went wrong (ticketing game one, bar service and running out of beer game 2), and that they are working to improve the experience for everyone. But instead we get this finger pointing at the supporters.

To echo, this in no way relates to the abuse the bar staff member got, in any circumstance, that is totally unacceptable.     
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Surely the second post can only be more sensible.

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Surely the second post can only be more sensible.

You wish  ;D

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Re: Staff abused at Quins - this is a real disgrace
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Methinks WhittonQuin protesteth too much - you may wish to muster your thoughts and reconsider...

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There is no excuse for abusing the staff, and I hope the idiot(s) get found out and banned.

With regards Laurie's comments, and general tone towards supporters, and insistence that the club is always right, it is worrying.

He blamed the supporters for ticket fiasco in home game 1, and even if he thought their messaging was crystal clear (clearly it wasn't if that many people turned up with the wrong one), there were numerous other ticketing issues that were the clubs fault (ie my issue was despite chasing in August, early Sept, and mid Sept, my sons new season ticket was never sent, even though they said it had been, and unknown to me it was waiting at the ticket office on the day of game - in those nightmare queues). I also know of other individual ticket circumstances at the fist game. 

He seems to have blamed supporter for turning up with 30 mins of kick off on game 2. I am not sure what he expects to happen on a Friday night game, they must have the data from previous ones..... His comment on '13,000 wanting a drink in 15 mins' is at best an exaggeration, but potentially trying to mislead (the bars where packed all night - when they still had beer  ::) - and I for one never went or had a drink from the bars all night - I am sure there were plenty like me).

These communications reminds me of the Muster quarter final when us supporters were told off for selling our tickets to Muster fans, no I didn't, I was there supporting my team, yet get told how disappointed the club were with me. Clearly that was pre-Laurie days, but the communication doesn't seem to have got any better.

It would have been so easy for the club to say, after both games, that they can see things went wrong (ticketing game one, bar service and running out of beer game 2), and that they are working to improve the experience for everyone. But instead we get this finger pointing at the supporters.

To echo, this in no way relates to the abuse the bar staff member got, in any circumstance, that is totally unacceptable.   

Completely agree. There was no need to put any of that stuff in at all, just say it won't be tolerated. One guy sounds off at staff, don't put the rest of the supporters in a group with him as if everyone is baying for blood because they didn't have the sense to turn up earlier.

Whilst I agree that 'abuse' is totally out of order, I'd tentatively suggest that anyone who faints when being shouted at behind a bar should maybe rethink their career options.

I won't comment further without knowing the details. Its quite the trend for companies to play the abuse card whenever their lack of customer service leads to complaints. Whether a rolling of the eyes, a criticism of the job being done, or an all-out tirade of expletives and threats constitutes said abuse is not clear. The word always engenders outpourings of emotion though, so doubtless it will continue.
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... I'd tentatively suggest that anyone who faints when being shouted at behind a bar should maybe rethink their career options.
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The irony here is delicious.
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However, whoever is in charge of editing at 'Quins email marketing dept. needs to remember to re-read the ads before sending out. I just received this - talking about seats in the coming months...

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Re: Staff abused at Quins - this is a real disgrace
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With a written message you’re always leaving yourself open to some variation into how its taken and what parts people absorb. But having re-read it a few times I can’t personally see that Laurie is either blaming fans or declaring the club to be without fault.

My main take away from the message is not ‘club good, fans bad’ or even ‘don’t abuse our staff*’ but rather ‘if you witness abuse of staff, please report it’.

*Because let’s face it, there’s little value in appealing directly to the type of a$$h@ who would do this.

Re: Staff abused at Quins - this is a real disgrace
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Well I turned up only a minute or so before kickoff last Friday, which was embarrassingly lastminute.com. However, I had been engaged in a serious and demanding investigation in both the Sussex Arms and Twickenham Fine Ales.