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TomBuckQuin

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 12:43* »
That Newcastle away game is huge for them. A lot riding on that.

The thing I can't get my head around is how they just don't have a pack any more. That's been their entire game for as long as I can remember - stick it up the jumper for 60 mins - pick and gos, rolling mauls, brutal rucking and tight defence. Now, when I look at their pack, there are very few players in there that would make it into Quins' pack for instance.

Look at the respective packs from this weekend just gone:

Quins

1 Marler
2 Elia
3 Sinckler
4 Symons
5 Horwill
6 Clifford
7 Robshaw
8 Dombrandt

Tigers

1 Genge
2 Youngs
3 Cole
4 Spencer
5 Kitchener
6 Williams
7 O'Connor
8 Thompson

Now, completely removing my Quins specs briefly...

The only arguments I think a neutral could make would possibly be:

Genge > Marler
Youngs > Elia
Spencer > Horwill

Obviously I disagree on the Genge/Marler one (although they're very different LHs so it's hard to compare anyway). Even if you take the above as being the case, I can't remember a time in years gone by that you'd look at a Tigers pack and feel sorry for them - usually you'd be green with envy. And I'm sorry but that back row is hands down the worst in the Prem. By a long, long way. They don't have a Prem quality blindside or number 8. Guy Thompson is their best performer in that unit and he's been moved out of his best position because they're just so low on quality there. Astounding to see Tigers lacking so much in the forwards. Just can't get my head around how that's happened.

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 12:47* »
It was certainly hard watching, Leicester looked like they had no ideas of what to do with ball in hand, it was just ship it from side to side and hope something opens up (sounds familiar to last season for Quins). The only player who stood out for Leicester was their scrum half, would be a starter in most other teams but is stuck behind Ben Youngs when available, if he goes they are in a spot of bother.

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 12:56* »
Am I wrong in thinking their scrummie (Harrison) is an academy graduate of ours?

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 13:52* »
Yes you are!

TomBuckQuin

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 14:44* »
Am I wrong in thinking their scrummie (Harrison) is an academy graduate of ours?
Yes :)

TomBuckQuin

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 14:52* »
Anyone else?
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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 17:29* »
Anyone else?

I would have but I wasn't sure.

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 18:07* »
Iíd never have Genge ahead of Joe - even without my Quins blinkers on. But that is striking.


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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 19:57* »
Yeah definitely wasn't saying that was my opinion. But some people will read the clamouring column inches around Genge and the misinformed portraits of Marler as some kind of pantomime villain and come to the "Genge > Marler" conclusion. When in fact it's a lot more complex (and interesting) than that - Joe is a serious pro now in every facet of the game and there aren't many props in the business I'd take over him. Genge is still relatively young and can wreak havoc in the loose when he's interested - if he can refine his tight work he'll be a very important player for England in future years.

But yeah, Tigers have serious problems up front. Especially as Genge is one player who has literally spoken out loud about not wanting to hang around at Tigers forever (in relation to wanting to go back to Brizz in the not-too-distant). Even if he doesn't go, overhaul needed.

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Re: Tigers - anyone watch it?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 25-Mar-2019, 20:29* »
Yeah whenever I watch Genge I think he needs an Adam Jones style mentor to knock the edges off - Sink was up there with Englandís best players in the 6 nations with Kruis and May imho,
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