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Bolly-Quin

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #120 on: Sunday 20-Jan-2019, 11:54* »
Why would Bristol want Wallace?

Because TRP have read on this board that some of the posters don't rate him, so he's obviously available to the highest bidder...

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #122 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 09:15* »
we need to keep wallace.

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #123 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 09:24* »
we need to keep wallace.

Which we will if Gustard wants to, otherwise not. He was full of praise bringing him back into the squad last week, and it's transfer season so agents and hacks are putting this stuff out there everywhere. He has been out of favour, I wouldn't be surprised if someone approached him, and I wouldn't be surprised if Gustard's very public praise of his work to get back into the team was all part of a plan.

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #124 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 10:00* »
I am sure Wallace will go just a shame about Clifford but we canít keep all the back row

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #125 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 11:37* »
Gutted about Clifford if true that it's a done deal. He's on a trajectory back to the best we've seen from him. Would love Gussy to somehow keep him from Chiefs' preying tentacles.

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #126 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 12:00* »
we need to keep wallace.

This has to be sarcastic
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TomBuckQuin

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #127 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 13:10* »
This has to be sarcastic

Come on GP, he's not that bad! I also wouldn't agree that we "need" to keep Wallace though - he's not as rounded as a modern backrower needs to be, at least imo. Not that it matters - none of us are going to be making the decision as to his future as far as I know...

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #128 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 13:36* »
If true that we are signing Evans and Lawday, I guess they are the replacement for Clifford and Wallace.

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #129 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 14:10* »
I seriously do not understand the Wallace comments here. Some people have short memories.
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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #130 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 14:48* »
Players are going to have good games,  Wallace is not a bad player but in recent times he has not really shown his best form. It could be due to getting himself back in the swing after his injury but I am not surprised he is moving on.

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #131 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 14:54* »
I have nothing against Wallace. He has been a great servant to the club over the years.  But to suggest we need to keep him is ridiculous.  He's started 3 Premiership games this season (GW1, GW3 and GW4).  The only other games he has started in all season are a Premiership Cup game (v Exeter) and a European game (last week).

Since his last start in GW4 - he hasnt even been in the match day 23.

He barely played at all last season due to injury.  And he is way behind Robshaw, Dombrandt, Chisholm, Clifford and Kunatani.

He is a squad player at best - not someone we cannot afford to lose.  I do not have stats but he has barely made any turnovers in the games he has played over the last 2 seasons (which used to be his best asset).

Clifford would be a far bigger loss. 

For me - if Wallace leaves - he will be a bench player.  He is not good enough for any PL first 15. 

So - yes we should thank him for his valuable contribution over many years.  But he is definitely not someone we cannot afford to lose. Or indeed that we would struggle to replace - since he has barely featured at all!

Come the Bristol and Worcester key PL games - he will not start.  I doubt he will even make the bench.
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TomBuckQuin

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #132 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 15:00* »
I seriously do not understand the Wallace comments here. Some people have short memories.

Nope, I've watched his entire career - been a season ticket holder throughout. I'd sum up his time at Quins as: has always been a brilliant defensive openside (great over the ball and makes tackles all day), but unfortunately never added the necessary attributes going forward.

I think most of it is just down to his physiology - he doesn't have the weight to break contact as a serious ball carrier, he's not astoundingly quick - he's just average at both if we're being honest with ourselves. If he excelled at either one of these two things he'd have been starting every week when fit. The stark fact is that you have to sacrifice a third of the go-forward you have from a back row like Dombrandt-Clifford-Chisholm when you have Wallace on the field. It's definitely not for lack of heart because he has that in spades and it's clear he gives everything every game he plays, but unfortunately that's not enough in itself (again, I caveat, imo).

Hence my reason for saying we don't "need" to keep him - i.e. he's not a "must nail this guy down with a new contract" player. In my opinion.

Did I mention this is all just my opinion?

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #133 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 17:05* »
he doesn't have the weight to break contact as a serious ball carrier, he's not astoundingly quick - he's just average at both if we're being honest with ourselves.

By that logic, we should have offloaded Robshaw about a decade ago. He's slower than Wallace and breaks the defensive line so rarely that the look of astonishment on his face is always a treat.

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Re: Transfer tittle tattle
« Reply #134 on: Wednesday 23-Jan-2019, 17:06* »
Is he "way behind" Kunatani?  Admittedly Semi could be our Bill Mata, but I think it will take a significant investment in time before he starts to settle in, because at the moment it looks a bit like the team are carrying him.

I wouldn't be gutted to see Wallace go, and if the breakdown were reffed like it is elsewhere his game would be more valuable - but I trust PG to know what's needed.

 

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