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TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 10:46* »
https://www.quins.co.uk/news/treatment-table-14-january-2020/


MICHELE CAMPAGNARO, JAMES LANG, WILL EVANS, TOM LAWDAY, GEORGE HEAD AND TRAVIS ISMAIEL HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE HARLEQUINS INJURY LIST.

Full back / winger Aaron Morris has recovered from an injury sustained earlier this season, whilst hooker Max Crumpton made his return from injury against Bath, however he picked up a hamstring injury in the second half and is set for three months rehabilitation.

Crumpton’s and Morris’ return seemed to offer encouragement, particularly with hookers Rob Buchanan, Scott Baldwin and George Head all carrying long terms injuries. Club Captain Chris Robshaw also picked up a head injury and may require a further week of recovery, therefore is unlikely to be available for selection to face ASM Clermont Auvergne.

Italian centre Michele Campagnaro was injured at Big Game 12 and will be out until next season following knee surgery. Campagnaro’s injury adds to the Club’s injury list in the centres after James Lang had surgery on Christmas eve and joins fellow centres Ben Tapuai and Francis Saili in the hands of the medical department.

Summer signing back rowers Tom Lawday and Will Evans are currently on the sidelines with Evans recovering from a broken jaw and former Exeter Chiefs player Lawday begins the recuperation process after tearing his hamstring against Sale.

South African winger Travis Ismaiel is also set for a spell on the sidelines, having injured his hamstring in a Premiership Rugby Shield fixture against Saracens and is set to be out of action.

Mike Lancaster, Head of Medical Services at Harlequins: ‘’We have had several contact injuries in key positions, which certainly challenges all facets of the rugby department, both players and staff are working hard to rectify our current situation. With regard to Michele, he has applied himself well and we are confident he has the attitude to overcome adversity.

“Likewise, whilst the injury to James Lang was a huge blow to his Six Nations hopes, we have already seen real improvements and hope to see him returning to action mid - late February.”

Head of Rugby Paul Gustard added: “We have had a very difficult few months with long term injuries sustained in the opening rounds of the Gallagher Premiership, which were further compounded by severe injuries to players in the same position in the weeks after.

“We have five senior centres out and four senior hookers injured which is not only freakish but reveals the hidden cost of injury in terms of training pedagogy and numbers.

“To have over 15 players unavailable, with many forming the backbone of our season last year, is disappointing. However, the staff and group we have are confident in the ability that we do have playing and the character that we have to compete on a weekly basis.”

Current Injury List:
Forwards
Rob Buchanan
Scott Baldwin
George Head
Elia Elia
Matt Symons
Max Crumpton
Jack Clifford
Will Evans
Chris Robshaw
Tom Lawday

Backs
James Lang
Ben Tapuai
Francis Saili
Michele Campagnaro
Nathan Earle
Travis Ismaiel
Mike Brown

Not available for selection
Joe Marchant



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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 10:50* »
Word of the day: Pedagogy

noun: pedagogy; plural noun: pedagogies
the method and practice of teaching, especially as an academic subject or theoretical concept.
"the relationship between applied linguistics and language pedagogy"



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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 10:53* »
It always seems to be our hookers and centres where injuries hit the deepest - since 2013 I've lost count of the number of players we've had crocked (or even lost to retirement) in those positions.

I wonder why, and what we need to do differently to manage their health better.

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 10:57* »
My perception is that Dave Ward was the exception and seemed to be the last man standing and he was even able to fill in as a back row replacement.
Dave seemed to be pretty quick around the park.  I wonder whether he spend more time on fitness training rather than strength training and that this is the key.

(I could however be mis-remembering this and be completely wrong however)

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 11:03* »
The "good"news is that Symons and Ellia are not mentioned as long term injuries. 

No idea if this is true or not, but a friend told me we were after Matt Cornish from Eailing as HK cover.  RIL had him linked to Wasps yesterday, but I think that was from next season.  I would be looking at Joe Gray as short term cover.

So as it stands we have 2 hookers and 2 FH, unless cover comes in that will be that way for at least another month or so!!  I would guess Chishlom and Morris would be the emergency FH in a disaster  **

**Im not advocating them as new FH saviours, just that from the players we have available, they have at least played there previously, likewise Lambert at HK.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 12:17* »
That's a truly frightening injury list already, we're not even half way through the season!

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 12:59* »
By my reckoning, we have a problem for Saturday's match.

All hookers that are registered other than Jack Musk are injured.

I think that we can register 6 replacements during the competition.
But:
1. we don't have any more that we could register
2. I think we have already used some of our replacements

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 13:11* »
I know he is listed as  injured, but I think Elia has just been given a break.

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 13:17* »
If the club haven’t even replaced Brown, as I don’t include a jack of all trades bang average squad player as adequate replacement.

I wonder if we will see any more names come in. I doubt it

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 13:20* »
The little ray of sunshine is back!!!

What makes you doubt anyone will come in?? With regards to Brown being replaced, if you have your 2nd and 3rd choice available (Morris and Chisholm) why would you bring in a replacement?? that is what you have a squad for.  Every time a first choice player is injured you expect an injury replacement to be signed??  The situation we find ourselves in with the Hooker now, then yes I would expect a replacement to be being looked at.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 15:33* »
I’m going to go polish my boots, reckon I’ll get a call on Friday night! ;D

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 17:16* »
The little ray of sunshine is back!!!

What makes you doubt anyone will come in?? With regards to Brown being replaced, if you have your 2nd and 3rd choice available (Morris and Chisholm) why would you bring in a replacement?? that is what you have a squad for.  Every time a first choice player is injured you expect an injury replacement to be signed??  The situation we find ourselves in with the Hooker now, then yes I would expect a replacement to be being looked at.

Chisholm has has far more woeful games than good, Morris has stepped up granted but it’s still a thin position. In any case, we should be covered by insurance so where’s that money going? Same for camp, as in reality it should be a player of a similar quality

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 18:02* »
I think due to number of injuries we have, rather than just one signing coming in as injury cover for a specific position, we have signed Penney who is able to cover Wing/FB/Centre.  You only have 400k, and with the issues we have it is very likely we might need to bring in another 2/3 players as injury cover, cant really blow our load on one big name.

In general, when was the last "Big" name injury replacement/dispensation anyone singed???

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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14-Jan-2020, 19:21* »
Chisholm has has far more woeful games than good, Morris has stepped up granted but it’s still a thin position. In any case, we should be covered by insurance so where’s that money going? Same for camp, as in reality it should be a player of a similar quality

I recall at a QUINSSA session, either Conor or Mark Evans saying there was no insurance. There is an allowance that you can spend over the cap to bring in an injury replacement up to the standards of the injured player. However, the club still has to find the money. Presumably this has got to be found and will explain why teams don't just rush to get injury replacements. Or always get in potentially expensive replacements, even if permitted.
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Re: TREATMENT TABLE – 14 JANUARY 2020
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15-Jan-2020, 09:20* »
Surely the money is only part of the problem. Where are all the injury replacements actually coming from? Super Rugby is about to start and all clubs in the Northern hemisphere are in the middle of the season - how many spare players are knocking about of Mike Brown's ability?
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