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Hopefully the championship will get a full covid free season in. Basically, some of the championship teams are non professional. So, there aren't many options for players to go. But, the championship teams are getting good numbers through the turnstiles for the games that do go ahead. So, hopefully teams like London Scottish will go Pro again at some point
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I understand signing some back row depth because:

Dombrandt is the only senior 8 at the club. Lawday and Chisholm are 6s that can play 8. If Dombrandt is away with England, there are gaps at 6, because one of those two has to play 8. This is a bigger problem if Kenningham also gets called up.

After two operations, there'll be question marks about Wev being the same player again. Maybe they've had news to that effect?

Wallace is probably on a shorter term deal. Would suspect he might be one to make way.


Tshituka is a 6'5 openside flanker. Looks quick, athletic, lineout option and v. comfortable with ball in hand. Very different 7 to Wev and more athletic than Kenningham but not a jackal. Probably a 6/7 in English rugby although could bulk up and play 8. Would fit quite well I think. Young guy as well. Very much fits the profile of the sort of player we look to bring in.
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Anyone know if the cap is changing for next season? I'd hope it would be going back up.
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I thought Tshituka is more of a 6/8 rather than a 7.  With Dombrandt likely to be missing for large parts of next season, it would allow us to still have a back rower athletic enough to play out in the backs like Dommers does. If we lost White/Wallace and replaced them with Tshituka and Trenholm, I’d argue our back row would be one of the strongest in the league.
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Quote from: Quinten Poulsen on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 12:27*
Anyone know if the cap is changing for next season? I'd hope it would be going back up.

Do you mean the 22/23 season or 23/24? The cap is dropping from £6.4m to £5M for 22/23 and only one marquee. That’s what’s driving all the movement and players like Fifita apparently signing for Scarlets after only half a season at Wasps.
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I mean for 22/23. The latest prem regs only reference this season (21/22). To clarify, the cap dropped from 6.4m to 5.0m from last season to this season.
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[quote author=quins4life link=topic=4521.msg81621#msg81621 I had some doubts about Lawday after his first handful of performances when we signed him, but he’s been class this season. He also is developed into a key leader for the team and loves it at the club when I’ve heard him speak recently.
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I'd be surprised to see Lawday going anywhere. He's getting a good amount of game time, clearly loving his rugby, and as you say seems to be part of the broader leadership group. He's also had the recent experience of being a bit part player at Exeter, so no doubt appreciates being a regular in a winning team.

I do think Quins are better placed than most to ride out the shocks of the salary cap reduction. You can't underestimate being happy in your work, and the current squad look to be a tight knit team.... and a winning one.
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Quote from: The Kid on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 11:27*
I understand signing some back row depth because:

Dombrandt is the only senior 8 at the club. Lawday and Chisholm are 6s that can play 8. If Dombrandt is away with England, there are gaps at 6, because one of those two has to play 8. This is a bigger problem if Kenningham also gets called up.

After two operations, there'll be question marks about Wev being the same player again. Maybe they've had news to that effect?

Wallace is probably on a shorter term deal. Would suspect he might be one to make way.


Tshituka is a 6'5 openside flanker. Looks quick, athletic, lineout option and v. comfortable with ball in hand. Very different 7 to Wev and more athletic than Kenningham but not a jackal. Probably a 6/7 in English rugby although could bulk up and play 8. Would fit quite well I think. Young guy as well. Very much fits the profile of the sort of player we look to bring in.

Didn't Chis play at 8 when England won the Junior World Cup? When he was Junior World Player of the Year? I may be mistaken.

As for the Vincent chap, could he be seen as a flanker cum lock?
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I don’t think so.

I’ve never knowingly seen the guy play, so I can’t say for sure, but in SA 6 and 7 are reversed so the 7 on his back firmly puts him on the blindside.

This article seems to have him down as a ball carrier first and foremost:
'Rugby was a fairytale but not a reality... I was blessed to break that barrier'
23-year-old Vincent Tshituka of the Lions is seen as a possible Springbok back row.
The 42 · the42.ie


Sort of sounds exactly like Taulani is supposed to be though?
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Yes Chisholm played 8 in JWC that was held in NZ. He was also the best under 20 in the world. Better than Super Maro Itojay.
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Quote from: Quinster on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 09:59*
If the daily mail is to be believed

ha ha
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Quote from: Ignoramus on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 19:52*
ha ha

It's a good job it was when they uncovered the Cheats. Without them it would still be going on. 
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Quote from: Twickersman on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 19:04*
Yes Chisholm played 8 in JWC that was held in NZ. He was also the best under 20 in the world. Better than Super Maro Itojay.

Thank you 👍
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Quote from: Quinky on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 17:22*
Didn't Chis play at 8 when England won the Junior World Cup? When he was Junior World Player of the Year? I may be mistaken.

As for the Vincent chap, could he be seen as a flanker cum lock?

Tom Youngs used to be a centre, Matt Banahan a second row and Kyle Sinckler a fly half.
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Quote from: Brown Bottle on Sunday 09-Jan-2022, 23:14*
Tom Youngs used to be a centre, Matt Banahan a second row and Kyle Sinckler a fly half.

None of whom were mentioned, or play for Quins
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