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TomBuckQuin

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 12:28* »
Kvesic??? 🙄

At least he was one of the form players in his position last Prem season. Unlike some in the squad...

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 12:36* »
At least he was one of the form players in his position last Prem season. Unlike some in the squad...

That's as maybe but his position was 8. The injuries (that we know about) are 7s. Plus he's been nowhere near the squad recently. If only there was an 8/flanker who'd been playing well and in and around the squad this summer. Young lad. Bit of a uni rig perhaps.

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 12:41* »
I guess the argument would be that Kvesic is much more 7 than Dombrandt. But, more generally, there isn't much rhyme or reason anymore anyway.

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 12:46* »
If we were looking for a seven if Underhill/Curry was out, I would be happy with Kvesic.  When i watch him he always seems a pest to the oppo.
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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 14:43* »
I love Dombrandt but he's not ready to play in a World Cup.
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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 15:18* »
I'd take one of the Robshaws and just be done with it

Yareet

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 15:21* »
I guess the argument would be that Kvesic is much more 7 than Dombrandt. But, more generally, there isn't much rhyme or reason anymore anyway.

So's Robshaw. Or Ben Curry. Or Jackson Wray. Or Don Armand for that matter who actually plays there for Chiefs instead of Kvesic.

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 16:14* »
So's Robshaw. Or Ben Curry. Or Jackson Wray. Or Don Armand for that matter who actually plays there for Chiefs instead of Kvesic.

Maybe it's just occurred to him that he could do with another number 8 in the squad - so parachutes Kvesic in as a 2-birds-1-stone replacement. As I mentioned in another thread, this squad is seriously unbalanced. Ideally, I'd want the number 1, 2 and 3 in most positions to be in Japan from the off. That way, if your first choice gets crocked, 2 and 3 step up to starting and bench berths respectively and you fly your next-best over and give them a chance to acclimatise. That won't be the case for Jones if, say, Sinckler picks up a knock. Or Vunipola (assuming Kvesic drops back out of the squad). Or Youngs. Or Faz. Or Daly. The list goes on. We can field 2.5 teams of wingers though - so that's good.

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 16:48* »
Kvesic has been playing well at 8 and covers 7, so isn't a bad call up

However, his role at 8 is completely different to Billy's so England would have to take a very different approach

Also, if Eddie rates him, why hadn't he played him or picked him for a camp before this? If he gets called up, he won't have proven international experience and he won't have had any chance to gel with the others and get up to speed in the camp. The whole approach is a bit weird.  He'd be playing and training with almost  everyone in the pack for the first time ever in an emergency. Which isn't the end of the world, but defeats the point of a training camp

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 17:27* »
I could be wrong, and happy to be put right but Im sure Kvesic has been called up before

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 17:50* »
I could be wrong, and happy to be put right but Im sure Kvesic has been called up before

He's been capped but he hasn't played for England in a while (https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-news/30834/matt-kvesic-admits-his-england-days-are-numbered-with-eddie-jones-at-the-helm/) and that was as a 7. He's now an 8 for Exeter.

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 13-Aug-2019, 18:11* »
The only logical conclusion is that Eddie Jones is getting selection tips from Donald Trump!
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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 14-Aug-2019, 10:47* »
I love Dombrandt but he's not ready to play in a World Cup.

It's hard to call. I seem to recall some people thinking that he wouldn't be ready for the Prem. He's certainly acquitted himself well, week in week out, against top flight players.

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Re: World Cup squad - no Brown or Marchant
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 14-Aug-2019, 11:12* »
It's hard to call. I seem to recall some people thinking that he wouldn't be ready for the Prem. He's certainly acquitted himself well, week in week out, against top flight players.

Different level though for a kid only a year out of uni in his position. But he has been superb, that's true.

 

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