ComeAllWithin
Rugby => ComeAllWithin Board => Topic started by: J Scott on Sunday 05-Jul-2020, 09:45*
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We'll really miss his quips, winks at the camera and constant water visits.
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I think this is great news. I think Jerry May have a positive impact. We may have lost Sinks but our depth is better. Just need another lock and BR in my opinion.
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Didn't mince his words, did he?!
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Gustard dismissing the rumour of Jones back to Wales.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/harlequins-gustard-adam-jones-rang-me-when-this-appeared-and-he-has-no-idea-where-it-came-from/
Harlequins boss Paul Gustard has dismissed claims that former Wales prop Adam Jones is quitting the club to take up a new role with the Ospreys.
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Ospreys are now under the control of former Quins coach Toby Booth and rumours of a move back to Wales for the former Lions prop have been circulating for weeks, but Gustard ended that speculation today in a zoom media call from the club’s training base in Surrey where former Munster favourite Jerry Flannery is now part of the set-up.
Gustard, the Harlequins head of rugby, who announced the signing of Ealing loosehead Jordan Els today, made it clear Jones has signed a new contract that ties him to Quins who will signal the return of Gallagher Premiership rugby after the enforced lockdown with a home game against Sale Sharks on August 14.
Gustard said: “Adam rang me when this appeared and he has no idea where it came from. We knew Toby was a short term thing and Adam signed a new contract for the club shortly after Toby signed for the Ospreys and any conversation about Adam going to the Ospreys would have happened then. Adam is committed to the club and he around the place and is quite a formidable size! I am delighted with coaches we have and the different kind of personalities and skills.
“Ospreys have a massive talent pool of players and Toby is very articulate and a good thinker about the game. Let’s be fair Ospreys have been pretty rubbish for a while and the only way is up.
“Our theme as a squad has been to “win the wait” as we have been in a holding pattern. It’s been great to see the players back out onto the field and it has been massively changing landscape on and off the field. For me as head coach it has been brilliant to welcome a new staff member (Jerry) who wil be a really good value for us. All of the Premiership teams are facing the same dynamics and we have been good in terms of our preparations and how much we have thought about how we get things right.
“It is down to each individual club to manage the work load on players and it will require some rotation. We start on a Friday and then there is likely to be changes for games two and three and we have to be sensible. It is not a hard and fast rule.”
Centre Joe Marchant is now back from his period playing for the Blues in Super Rugby and has joined training this week. “The rest of the players have been in doing some form of training for around six weeks,” added Gustard. “Joe played a handful of minutes in the last game for the Blues and he has only really joined us this week and looks in great condition as always. He is fit, strong and in a fresh state of mind and enjoyed the privilege of being allowed to experience that and moving forward it is important we see the benefit of Joe’s experience over there.
“I spoke to Leon MacDonald (Blues coach) about him and what they have been doing that might enhance the programme we are putting together. It has been good for Joe and brilliant he as been able to train with the likes of Dan Carter and Beauden Barrett. He is confident and ready to kick on in the next stage of his career and hopefully we get the next seven or eight years out of hm.”
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Didnt say he was leaving, they want him
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If Adam is leaving why is he doing an evening with the Quins Foundation to raise money for them with newly arrived Flannery!?
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Three years working in Croydon was probably my least pleasant commute.
I used to have a friend who lived in west London & worked for an airline. Once a month she had to go to an all day management meeting - in Sydney.
Each trip took about 4 days in total. After about a year the cumulative effect of jet lag started to affect her health so she quit. This was about 10 years ago, so hopefully the organisation has invested in a good video conferencing set-up.
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What's wrong with the Isle of Wight?
Car tends to get a bit wet on the way over...
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That was actually the toughest one, after India (where I was working for a man whose idea of a perfect Sunday afternoon was to show up at my hotel room and get me to write his marketing puff). There's *nothing* to do.
That said, I narrowly avoided two years commuting to Newport. Which might work for Bomb, but wouldn't for me.
What's wrong with the Isle of Wight?
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I had to go to Milkwaukee on a regular basis in the early '00s. It's like Swindon but without the charm...
Three years working in Croydon was probably my least pleasant commute.
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Was good enough for The Fonz
Heyyyy!
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I had to go to Milkwaukee on a regular basis in the early '00s. It's like Swindon but without the charm...
Was good enough for The Fonz
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I had to go to Milkwaukee on a regular basis in the early '00s. It's like Swindon but without the charm...
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I'm astonished, and take my hat off to you. No idea how you managed it.
Swindon? Every week?!!!! ;D
That was actually the toughest one, after India (where I was working for a man whose idea of a perfect Sunday afternoon was to show up at my hotel room and get me to write his marketing puff). There's *nothing* to do.
That said, I narrowly avoided two years commuting to Newport. Which might work for Bomb, but wouldn't for me.
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So as a management consultant I've had, in the 15 years since my kids first started arriving, 5 years of commuting to Edinburgh on a weekly basis, 2 years of commuting to Manchester on a weekly basis, 6 months of commuting to Swindon on a weekly basis, 6 months of commuting to China on a monthly basis and a year of commuting to India on a 6-8 weekly basis.
Sometimes it wasn't ideal, but we have coped pretty well, mostly by not taking work home for the weekend. As we enter the 4th month of lockdown, it's probably harder all being stuck at home than at any point except when I was in India. The point being, it's a very individual thing. Some families find it hard to be apart, some families work well with a bit of distance, and even that can change by circumstances.
All of which said, I could understand him wanting to go back to Wales... but for someone like him at the start of his coaching career it may come down more to which club is going to offer him the best opportunity to develop his skills and coaching brand.
I'm astonished, and take my hat off to you. No idea how you managed it.
Swindon? Every week?!!!! ;D
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So as a management consultant I've had, in the 15 years since my kids first started arriving, 5 years of commuting to Edinburgh on a weekly basis, 2 years of commuting to Manchester on a weekly basis, 6 months of commuting to Swindon on a weekly basis, 6 months of commuting to China on a monthly basis and a year of commuting to India on a 6-8 weekly basis.
Sometimes it wasn't ideal, but we have coped pretty well, mostly by not taking work home for the weekend. As we enter the 4th month of lockdown, it's probably harder all being stuck at home than at any point except when I was in India. The point being, it's a very individual thing. Some families find it hard to be apart, some families work well with a bit of distance, and even that can change by circumstances.
All of which said, I could understand him wanting to go back to Wales... but for someone like him at the start of his coaching career it may come down more to which club is going to offer him the best opportunity to develop his skills and coaching brand.
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In fairness, he knew the situation re travel when he agreed to join
Indeed, but the effects can accumulate over a period of time. As with other posters, I've had jobs that required a long daily commute (although nowhere near as bad). The work around was to leave home at 7am and leave work after 6pm. It cuts into your life after a while, especially when traffic jams/accidents etc occasionally add hours to an already long journey.
I don't know his family situation, nut if he has kids for example, I'd say that the time away must really take its toll.
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Having commuted around just the southern part of the M25 to/from work for years i can fully empathise with anyone who also commutes a distance as it really does get to you as that extra (minimum) 3 hours a day plus a full day in the office really adds to the stress and affects your family life detrimentally and ultimately no job, as the last 4 months has proved, is worth it.
Priorities should be imho Family, health, enjoying life and finally wealth.
I agree! I did 8 years of commuting from Wantage in S. Oxon to the outskirts of Fareham & back every day. I calculated that I drove the distance from the Earth to the Moon & started on the way back in that time. When you're leaving the house at 7am & getting home at 7pm earliest, your life ends up devolving into Sleep-Drive-Work-Drive-Eat-Sleep during the week, with no chance to actually sit down & unwind. So glad I'm now working much closer to home...
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In fairness, he knew the situation re travel when he agreed to join
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I don't know now - but he was renting a flat nr Guildford and stayed there during the week - before going back to Wales for weekend and non training days.
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Having commuted around just the southern part of the M25 to/from work for years i can fully empathise with anyone who also commutes a distance as it really does get to you as that extra (minimum) 3 hours a day plus a full day in the office really adds to the stress and affects your family life detrimentally and ultimately no job, as the last 4 months has proved, is worth it.
Priorities should be imho Family, health, enjoying life and finally wealth.
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Yes but I think he was actually on way back to Wales having been released and had to turn around as someone failed a test before the match
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He's been doing that since he started playing for us. Remember the game (against Saints?) when he was a late call-up to the bench then had to be subbed on after a couple of minutes to play (very well!) at Loosehead for nearly the whole match? He drove up from Wales that morning after getting the call to say he was needed!
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However much he loves the job, how long would it be before that began to affect him?
Didn't realise that. Makes a big difference.
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He also still lives in Wales and commutes down the M4
However much he loves the job, how long would it be before that began to affect him?
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He also still lives in Wales and commutes down the M4
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Yeah liking the thought of a young and up & coming forwards coach who has some radical ideas about how you can use your pack effectively in the modern game, even if they were from the SH. No one's immediately springing to mind though...
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JK worked wonders with our scrum, but id rather we looked forward now instead of back.
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Sadly Bomb moving back to Wales will happen at some point. He is Welsh!
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Booth is obviously a but of a bit 🤬
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Booth did the same to London Irish when he moved to Bath and starting pinching LI's best players
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JK must come back!!
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We have needed a full time, experienced forwards coach since 2013. Once JK moved up, our pack has deteriorated - even though the personnel are arguably better now. We muck about with line coaches and scrum coaches but we need someone to implement a plan for the forwards in its entirety and then deliver it. Coaches for specific set pieces are a luxury until you have someone directing the forwards. Getting Booth in seemed like we’d finally accepted that but now we have a massive whole again. Maybe Flannery will take it on...
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Welcome back JK!
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I agree. Up until now, we seem to be less than the sum of our parts. It’s not solely down to the front row, but I’d have expected Jones to get more out of Marler, Sinckler, Collier etc.
Louw is definitely more of a scrummaging prop than Sinckler was so I’d be curious to see how much of a difference that makes, but I’d argue Collier is a well-regraded technical scrummager which didn’t make an obvious difference when he played.
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Thats my point, our scrum as a collective should be better than it is.
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Hmmm, having two out of the eight props in the last B&I Lions isn't too bad of a result, I would say...
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Would it be a big loss?? I think with the props we have had our scrum under achieves. Im sure stats wise we are one of the worst in the Prem??
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Adam Jones. Nice move by Booth after we gave him a coaching spot. Not.
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Who?
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According to TRP we could be losing Bomb to Ospreys he is Booths top target. Would be a big loss but can see him wanting to move.