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Rugby => ComeAllWithin Board => Topic started by: Guildford Quin on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:15*

Title: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Guildford Quin on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:15*
The signings this week made me think about how many players we've signed that have prospered at Quins as opposed to ones that have left us and done better. We can all name plenty of duff signings in the past 20 years or so, but I was struggling to think of discarded players who have actually done better when they've left. Mike Ross, Kieran Treadwell and David Strettle come to mind along with Launchbury. but can't think of many others that have done better post-Quins. Suggestions ?
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: RodneyRegis on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:17*
Most of ours sink without a trace, even the better players. Mo, Robson, Guest...
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: RodneyRegis on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:18*
Tito I guess. Ross? Who was the fly half who was doing well?
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Fursty on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:19*
Benjamin Urdapilleta - Argentine fly-half now playing Top 14 for Castres springs to mind.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Now ex-Navyquin on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:22*
Apart from those mentioned I am struggling to think of any more at the moment.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: noah_jo on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:24*
Urm Ben Botica is doing ok
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: T-Bone on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:27*
Sanderson did well didn't he? There was a guy down at Exeter, can't remember his name and it looks like he's no longer there. It'll come to me. But generally the point is correct
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: honkytonk on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:28*
Mo done quite well in France for Oyonnaux I think.  Nic Mayhew earned himself a super rugby contract with Auckland and then Brumbies I think it was. 
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: T-Bone on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:29*
Kai Horstmann is the guy I'm thinking of.

Aspland-Robinson started for Tigers the other day, but too early to say it's been a success. Sam Stuart getting some game time for Falcons, but hardly a roaring success
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Chipstead Quin on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:34*
What have the Romans ever done for us ......?
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Quinky on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:57*
I thought Mo left us for a swansong before retiring, although I may have got that wrong.
Botica definitely prospered.
JJ seems to have been a nomad but appears to be doing OK.
Keith Wood didn't do too badly as I recall :) same goes for Will Greenwood
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: never sleep on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 12:58*
Strettle has done okay
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: TW Quin on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 13:17*
JJ went off to Sarries and soon disappeared via Wuss
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Monte on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 13:34*
I thought Mo left us for a swansong before retiring, although I may have got that wrong.
Botica definitely prospered.
JJ seems to have been a nomad but appears to be doing OK.
Keith Wood didn't do too badly as I recall :) same goes for Will Greenwood
Will retired when he left after World Cup!
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: DOK on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 15:06*
Strettle has never been the man he was with us before his injury. Yes, he's still a very good squad wing but that ability to "disco dance" through a field of would be tacklers had disappeared.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: T-Bone on Friday 22-Mar-2019, 15:24*
Greenwood struggled at tigers and only did well when he came back.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: poorfour on Saturday 23-Mar-2019, 00:18*
Ross wasnít discarded, though, was he? We would happily have kept him, but Ireland basically offered him a track to international caps, on which they delivered.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Quinky on Saturday 23-Mar-2019, 09:15*
JJ went off to Sarries and soon disappeared via Wuss

He didn't disappear. He seems to be doing OK at Brive.

I read that he'd gone through some difficult times but is back on track now, thankfully.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Quinky on Saturday 23-Mar-2019, 09:16*
Will retired when he left after World Cup!

I meant the first time he left us, for Tigers.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: fandg2 on Saturday 23-Mar-2019, 11:07*
Ross wasnít discarded, though, was he? We would happily have kept him, but Ireland basically offered him a track to international caps, on which they delivered.

I think you'll find it was the same for Treadwell, capped against Japan last year, so I would'nt class him as discarded either.

I think the current 12 (whoever they are) can be classed as 'discarded' though. Can't help think looking at some of those coming in that 'we're' just book balancing, pay wise though. ie bringing in cheaper options to sit on the sidelines
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: honkytonk on Saturday 23-Mar-2019, 11:14*
I think you will always get that with the cap (Book Balancing).  It could be, Cheeseman goes, we bring in Northmore to replace.  One for the future maybe but also  cheaper than Cheeseman I would guess and can still do a job.  The money saved though could help pave the way for us being able to afford better cover for Care (Landajo).  Im not saying Cheeseman costs a lot, but every little bit.  Same could be said if Swaintson/McNulty go.  Is Kerrod just a cheaper option but similar results.  I might be being unfair to Kerrod, but just him as an example
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: MaidstoneQuin on Saturday 23-Mar-2019, 19:04*
Thomstone?
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: col01 on Monday 25-Mar-2019, 07:20*
Ben Gollings diferent game but definitely did very well..
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Monte on Monday 25-Mar-2019, 09:24*
Strettle has done okay
we had to let either Strets or Monye go due to salary cap. Ugo was a Lion later but Strets was not even an England player. So right decision
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Monte on Monday 25-Mar-2019, 09:26*
Greenwood struggled at tigers and only did well when he came back.
he left Tigers and came back to us to get away from Deano whom he maintained did not like him. He then ended up the last year playing for him at Quins!
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: AdrianB on Monday 25-Mar-2019, 12:53*
Jono Ross played a few A league games for us, not sure if he was in our academy, but has done all right since he left.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Monday 25-Mar-2019, 14:35*
He was in the academy for maybe half a season before he returned to SA. I think he was in the George Lowe/Chris York age group.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Monte on Wednesday 27-Mar-2019, 13:05*
Joe Launchberry was in our academy and we released him. He has always said it gave him a kick up the back side when he went back to Worthing and then Wasps picked him up.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: raedarius on Wednesday 27-Mar-2019, 13:24*
Launchbury didn't make it as far as the Academy IIRC, just the EPDG.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: DruidsLodge on Thursday 28-Mar-2019, 06:00*
I suspect no one got more caps after leaving us (43) than Bruce Douglas.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: JammyGit on Thursday 28-Mar-2019, 09:52*
we had to let either Strets or Monye go due to salary cap. Ugo was a Lion later but Strets was not even an England player. So right decision

Strets was an England player in 2007, 3 years before he left Quins.
Title: Re: Transfers - Winners or Losers ?
Post by: Now ex-Navyquin on Friday 29-Mar-2019, 11:11*
According to RugbyPass Quins could be set to lose academy player Hayden Hyde to Ulster as part of the IRFU talent acquisition programme. (wasn't sure if this warranted it's own topic) 

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/harlequins-and-england-set-to-lose-fight-for-budding-star-to-ireland