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Title: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Quins-Az on Thursday 09-May-2019, 13:30*
Hi,

6 of us are travelling up to Newcastle tomorrow for finals weekend, However one person has dropped out last minute.

If anyone fancies it:

- Train leaves kings cross at 3pm tomorrow (Friday 10th)
- Accomodation
- tickets to challenge cup final (friday)
- tickets to champions cup final (saturday)
- train back to london leaving newcastle 4pm sunday.

all this for £188 or nearest offer (if you would like to arrange own accomodation we can take this out of the price)

Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Le marseillais on Thursday 09-May-2019, 14:13*
Hope you will support us !!!
Only 5 or 600 supporters of the Yellow Army.
Definitly too expensive this year.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: HarTley Quin on Friday 10-May-2019, 11:00*
Hope you will support us !!!
Only 5 or 600 supporters of the Yellow Army.
Definitly too expensive this year.

I'll be watching on TV but will definitely be cheering for Clermont.  Even though we lost it was a great trip.  Thanks for your hospitality
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Le marseillais on Friday 10-May-2019, 11:50*
Thank you for the support Jonathan,
We have tonight our best team available,
so I am carefully confident.
Let's cross fingers,
cheers
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: fatgat on Friday 10-May-2019, 21:59*
Thank you for the support Jonathan,
We have tonight our best team available,
so I am carefully confident.
Let's cross fingers,
cheers


Congratulations "Les Marseillais", at least we lost to the best side! (And my favourite French side) . Hope the "Mal a la tete" isn't too bad .
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Le marseillais on Friday 10-May-2019, 22:10*
Thanks very much
I think the best team won tonight
I am just happy
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: HarTley Quin on Saturday 11-May-2019, 10:55*
Thanks very much
I think the best team won tonight
I am just happy

I agree the best team won and happy that my favourite French team came out victorious
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: guest602 on Saturday 11-May-2019, 12:34*
Well what a great job Stuart Lancaster has done for Leinster.

Come on Leinster! 
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Domestos on Saturday 11-May-2019, 15:11*
Well what a great job Stuart Lancaster has done for Leinster.

Come on Leinster!

Why would you want a foreign team to beat an English team?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: DOK on Saturday 11-May-2019, 15:40*
I can't decide. I'm half Irish and feel a bit dirty supporting Saracens....
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Harleys Evil Step Mum on Saturday 11-May-2019, 16:07*
GOD I WISH I'D SEEN THIS ON THURSDAY!!!! :(
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Banstead Quin on Saturday 11-May-2019, 17:53*
Difficult to split the two as they have both flagrantly abused the spirit and ethos of the game in the professional era but going for Sarries because they're a Prem side.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Mayor West on Saturday 11-May-2019, 17:59*
Try and think of it as England v Ireland if that makes it easier. I want England to win.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: AdrianB on Saturday 11-May-2019, 18:05*
Try and think of it as England v Ireland if that makes it easier. I want England to win.
Why? its 2 teams I don't support in a final? Why should I support one over the other based on nationality?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Gone on Saturday 11-May-2019, 18:50*
Why? its 2 teams I don't support in a final? Why should I support one over the other based on nationality?

Don’t then, it’s ok, no one really minds.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: never sleep on Saturday 11-May-2019, 18:56*
So, does that result mean that we are definitely in the champions cup next year no matter what the other results are?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: noah_jo on Saturday 11-May-2019, 18:57*
That commentary alone made me support sarries for 80 minutes. Terribly bias
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Harleys Evil Step Mum on Saturday 11-May-2019, 18:58*
BRILLIANT!!!!! SICK AND TIRED OF SEXTON AND IRELAND GENERALLY!!!!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Le Tiss on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:00*
Have to tip a fez to sarries. That was a huge performance. Congrats.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: AdrianB on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:00*
Cracking game. Well done Saracens.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Fearless Fred on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:01*
That commentary alone made me support sarries for 80 minutes. Terribly bias

Which commentary were you watching? I decided to watch on Channel 4 and thought it was good to get some new voices for a change...

You've got to think that the RFU are going to go after McCall as EJ's successor now, especially because the Ireland job's taken by Farrell Snr...
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Yareet on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:10*
Joe Gray, Champions Cup winner
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Quintron on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:29*
Superb from both sides. Will Quins ever be as good as Saracens?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Archquin on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:30*
Congrats to Sarries
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: A222Quin on Saturday 11-May-2019, 19:37*
Congrats to Sarries. A great big game performance. I thought Irish rugby was supposed to sweep all aside this year?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: guest602 on Saturday 11-May-2019, 21:06*
Why would you want a foreign team to beat an English team?

Hello Domestos

Simply because I appreciate Stuart Lancaster and that he was 'thrown to the wolves' in 2015 and I don't particularly appreciate the Saracens.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Domestos on Saturday 11-May-2019, 22:02*
Why? its 2 teams I don't support in a final? Why should I support one over the other based on nationality?

I think it's called patriotism.

I was a bit surprised how much I wanted Saracens to win.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: JammyGit on Saturday 11-May-2019, 22:08*
Hello Domestos

Simply because I appreciate Stuart Lancaster and that he was 'thrown to the wolves' in 2015 and I don't particularly appreciate the Saracens.


On the flip side I don't appreciate us getting humiliated in our own world cup!

I was very happy to see Sarries win today, particularly in the manner they did - essentially bullying most of the Ireland team - and the England boys had a blinder.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: T-Bone on Saturday 11-May-2019, 23:34*
Well done sarries. Seriously impressive performance. Not s fan but really don't like Leinster and credit where it's due they are a seriously good team and looked like they could have scored more.

Shame strettle didn't get on. Gray gets a winners medal presumably
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Bonesbarnes on Saturday 11-May-2019, 23:50*
Slightly off subject but ... as he's been mentioned a couple of times. Joe Gray doing a good job as Head Coach of Barnes in National Two South.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: guest257 on Sunday 12-May-2019, 07:31*
As a kind of aside, why do people dislike Leinster so much? A close friend of mine from Dublin is a season ticket holder there so I’ve seen the (mostly) ups and downs of recent years through his eyes a bit. There’s something perhaps that’s harder to warm to than the other Irish teams but I can’t put my finger on what it is. Is it just the sustained success?

Notwithstanding that I was pretty neutral yesterday and thought the right team won on the day. Pleased to see some key England players putting in a really good shift.

Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: rdc on Sunday 12-May-2019, 08:16*
I thought this was one of the best rugby displays at any level I’ve ever seen.  Not a Saries fan but a display to be proud of, and I’d be thrilled to think Quins could produce 80 min of rugby at that intensity and skill level.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Domestos on Sunday 12-May-2019, 08:23*
As a kind of aside, why do people dislike Leinster so much?

I am not sure we do dislike Leinster - do we?

Test question.
English club plays foreign club. Whom do you support? (Generally speaking?)

That's all it is.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: A222Quin on Sunday 12-May-2019, 08:31*
Yeah for me it was English club plays Irish club/province more than anything. I prefer Leinster to Munster though and have no particular feelings about Ulster or Connacht. I also find a fair percentage of holier than thouness comes out of Irish rugby and the sky obsession with them wore a bit thin.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: JammyGit on Sunday 12-May-2019, 10:51*
Leinster fans can really grate, and Sexton is incredibly irritating - Leinster, like Ireland, appeal for everything, usually led by him.

The booing of every decision that went against them yesterday really makes a mockery of the idea that the Leinster fans are all about the good of the game, especially given their self-important shushing of the crowd whenever someone is kicking...
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: honkytonk on Sunday 12-May-2019, 10:56*
I am not sure we do dislike Leinster - do we?

Test question.
English club plays foreign club. Whom do you support? (Generally speaking?)

That's all it is.

Depends who the two clubs are.  I have a soft spot for Stade Francais and would always cheer them on (except against Quins of course).  Cant say I have any real love of any other English clubs but would always cheer them over the Celtic sides.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Domestos on Sunday 12-May-2019, 11:02*
Leinster fans can really grate, and Sexton is incredibly irritating - Leinster, like Ireland, appeal for everything, usually led by him.

The booing of every decision that went against them yesterday really makes a mockery of the idea that the Leinster fans are all about the good of the game, especially given their self-important shushing of the crowd whenever someone is kicking...

Agree with all of that.

Plus, their cheering of Itoje's yellow card is not in the right spirit of the game, is it?

I await the arrival of a Leinster fan to point out where we misjudge Leinster.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Bolly-Quin on Sunday 12-May-2019, 12:29*
Difficult to split the two as they have both flagrantly abused the spirit and ethos of the game in the professional era but going for Sarries because they're a Prem side.

Out of interest, Banstead, how have Leinster abused the spirit and ethos of the game?

I thought it it was a smashing game and Sarries deserved winners.  As mentioned above, I'd love Quins to put in a total rugby performance like that - hopefully at Wasps next weekend, to finish off the season in style!
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Brown Bottle on Sunday 12-May-2019, 13:49*
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Out of interest, Banstead, how have Leinster abused the spirit and ethos of the game?

Yes, I was wondering about that.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Domestos on Sunday 12-May-2019, 15:10*
Yes, I was wondering about that.

As nobody else seems to want to, let me ask specifically how Sarrys, and Leinster,  have devalued the spirit and ethos of the game?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: JammyGit on Sunday 12-May-2019, 15:33*
Sarries because of salary cap cheating and some pretty ugly behaviour on and off the field over a period of time.

Leinster, dunno. They're definitely holier-than-thou but that's far from the same thing.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: A222Quin on Sunday 12-May-2019, 15:51*
Only thing I can think of is how if any Connacht player gets half decent, they're immediately sent down to Leinster but that's an IRFU thing AFAIK?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: AdrianB on Sunday 12-May-2019, 16:08*
I think it's called patriotism.

I was a bit surprised how much I wanted Saracens to win.
Patriotism doesn't need to come into it for me, it was 2 club sides. I didn't support either team during the game, really enjoyed the game, but was also really pleased for Sarries.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: JammyGit on Sunday 12-May-2019, 17:35*
Only thing I can think of is how if any Connacht player gets half decent, they're immediately sent down to Leinster but that's an IRFU thing AFAIK?

And they lost Joey Carbey in similar circumstances, so it evens out a little bit.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Gone on Sunday 12-May-2019, 21:59*
And they lost Joey Carbey in similar circumstances, so it evens out a little bit.

That was so he could get some starts to help Ireland rather than warm the bench.

Whole system is so much better for the national side than ours.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Monte on Monday 13-May-2019, 08:11*
“Plus, their cheering of Itoje's yellow card is not in the right spirit of the game, is it?”

We would do excactly the same at the Stoop only louder -I think you are being a bit pi there!
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Domestos on Monday 13-May-2019, 08:29*
“Plus, their cheering of Itoje's yellow card is not in the right spirit of the game, is it?”

We would do excactly the same at the Stoop only louder -I think you are being a bit pi there!

What does "a bit pi" mean?
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Bolly-Quin on Monday 13-May-2019, 10:28*
What does "a bit pi" mean?

3.14
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: marlowish on Monday 13-May-2019, 12:00*
I am not sure we do dislike Leinster - do we?

Test question.
English club plays foreign club. Whom do you support? (Generally speaking?)

That's all it is.
Agred I detest Munster after their fans behaviour at the Stop but the Leinster fans were great.
No Sarries fan for the obvious reasons but will always want an English team to beat one from elsewhere.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: T-Bone on Monday 13-May-2019, 12:24*
I think I dislike Leinster due to the previous Sky love in (same goes for Munster) and general smugness. All this "best fans in the world", "drop of the black stuff", "great craic" stuff irritates me somewhat. I also think they play pretty dull rugby on the whole.

Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Monday 13-May-2019, 21:28*
Sexton didn't play for some time but was "fit" for the big game.

Just saying, like.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Banstead Quin on Tuesday 14-May-2019, 12:50*
Sexton didn't play for some time but was "fit" for the big game.

Just saying, like.

To be honest all, that's the main reasons I don't have support for Leinster or the Irish success in the 6N. You can't knock what they've achieved in Europe but it is built off the back of being able to rest their main players who play less minutes than their English counterparts across a season but always ready for Europe and Internationals. How good would all of our teams be and England if the key players missed 6 league games a season? Of course, we as fans wouldn't stand for it because we have a strong club game and a competitive league.

If I ever get a day to do it, I'd like to go back over the lat 5 years and compare all of the league playing minutes for the top international players.
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Quinky on Tuesday 14-May-2019, 13:06*
Sounds like it was a good game, shame I missed it.

Sarries are a very good team. In the UK, they're the best that (unlimited) money can buy.

If I were Nigel Wray, I'd have bet one of my houses on Sarries winning...
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Bolly-Quin on Tuesday 14-May-2019, 13:38*
To be honest all, that's the main reasons I don't have support for Leinster or the Irish success in the 6N. You can't knock what they've achieved in Europe but it is built off the back of being able to rest their main players who play less minutes than their English counterparts across a season but always ready for Europe and Internationals. How good would all of our teams be and England if the key players missed 6 league games a season? Of course, we as fans wouldn't stand for it because we have a strong club game and a competitive league.

If I ever get a day to do it, I'd like to go back over the lat 5 years and compare all of the league playing minutes for the top international players.

Not sure that that is abusing the spirit and ethos of the game - and, as you say, you'd welcome it except that it would (rightly/wrongly?) deprive us/you of watching the players we wish to and have paid to see all season. I am not sure all theIrish players get as much time off as Sexton - he's older than most of the team and is a critical part of it - his absence allows his tenure to be extended, keeping him out of trouble and allows his understudy time to fit in/drive his own style - it seems like a good model to me. And if the rumours of ring fencing are true, something that the RFU may well do or be equipped to do, soon, if Clubs can be persuaded to release their English players more often.

There were some stats published at the end of last season - I don't recall where - that showed that for that season, some of Leinster's International players had played about half the time played by those playing International rugby for England.

A quick search illustrates this:- https://punditarena.com/rugby/smcmahon/difference-game-time-ireland-englands-top-players-startling/
Title: Re: European Finals Weekend - This weekend!
Post by: Quins-Az on Thursday 16-May-2019, 16:44*
What a fantastic weekend it was in Newcastle.

The Clermont fans were brilliant - travelled in numbers - the challenge cup game was much better than i expected. Played at a fast pace with lots of offloads a joy to watch.

The Main event however was a fantastic game of rugby. Sarries were phenomenal and thoroughly deserved it.

The Leinster fans were brilliant, Newcastle was a sea of Blue, definitely outnumbering the Sarries Fans. Spoke to a lot of Leinster fans and they were a good laugh and even in good spirits after the game.

hopefully one day we can see Quins in a Champions Cup final...