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Rugby => ComeAllWithin Board => Topic started by: West Stand Quin on Tuesday 18-Jun-2019, 18:15*

Title: Luke Wallace
Post by: West Stand Quin on Tuesday 18-Jun-2019, 18:15*
Signs for Coventry (not the Wasps variety)
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: GP2110 on Tuesday 18-Jun-2019, 18:40*
I guess that settles the backlash I received when I said he was no longer premiership quality.

Good luck to him on his new venture.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Quintron on Tuesday 18-Jun-2019, 19:14*
Never Premiership quality
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: fandg2 on Tuesday 18-Jun-2019, 20:04*
Never Premiership quality

lol. Let see who he actually plays for ;-)
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: GP2110 on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 09:24*
who he actually plays for?

Given that he has signed for coventry, they're probably a good bet...
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 10:11*
Good luck Lukie. Top man.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: mighty_quin on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 14:01*
Never Premiership quality

 ::)
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Monte on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 14:13*
Sad letís hope he finds himself again. Wonder if his brotherís accident has also impacted on him?
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: DazzaS on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 17:25*
I'm surprised London Irish didnt go in for him. He would have been a good addition for them.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Gone on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 17:28*
I guess that settles the backlash I received when I said he was no longer premiership quality.

Good luck to him on his new venture.

You didnít say no longer.

Totally agree he fell away and wasnít up to it last 18 months.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: GP2110 on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 18:17*
Really?

In the Luke Wallace thread, I said:

"Heís been a loyal player, for which we should be grateful.

But I agree - he is no longer good enough for the premiership. I never expect to see him in the matchday 23, leaving aside dead rubbers in the premiership cup, for example. Looking at other squads in the league, I struggle to see the situation being different elsewhere."

I then said:

"And yet the suggestion that he is no longer premiership quality gets shot down completely.  As I said above, he was a fantastic player for us. But I canít see him regularly making a match day 23 for any of the teams in the league.  That takes nothing away from his previous service."

Why let facts get in the way eh

Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: QuincyJones on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 19:34*
He is 100% premiership quality. Cliche but true... form is temporary and class is permanent. Even allowing for injury he's not been afforded the opportunities over the past year or so.

If he can put a good season in he'll be back in the premiership in absolutely no time whatsoever.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Rocker on Wednesday 19-Jun-2019, 23:20*
He was a very good player, he wasn't so good since coming back from injury, but that could easily have risky finished his career. Personally I hope he finds some form and makes his way back into the premiership.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Gone on Thursday 20-Jun-2019, 07:58*
Really?

In the Luke Wallace thread, I said:

"Heís been a loyal player, for which we should be grateful.

But I agree - he is no longer good enough for the premiership. I never expect to see him in the matchday 23, leaving aside dead rubbers in the premiership cup, for example. Looking at other squads in the league, I struggle to see the situation being different elsewhere."

I then said:

"And yet the suggestion that he is no longer premiership quality gets shot down completely.  As I said above, he was a fantastic player for us. But I canít see him regularly making a match day 23 for any of the teams in the league.  That takes nothing away from his previous service."

Why let facts get in the way eh

Then it wasnít you.

I dont care at all that Wallace went, he wasnít up to it post injury sadly for him.

But someone suggested he was always rubbish which is clearly nonsense.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Boonie on Thursday 20-Jun-2019, 08:55*
When he was good, he was really good, but even pre-injury there were some questions about his positional play; post-injury he never looked like the player he was in his prime. A spell with Cov might do him a lot of good - give him a chance to get back to full fitness, and back into the form he used to have. Either way, from a Quins perspective we have many better alternatives now, so for the club this is the right move. Hope he does well.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: JammyGit on Thursday 20-Jun-2019, 22:34*
He is 100% premiership quality. Cliche but true... form is temporary and class is permanent. Even allowing for injury he's not been afforded the opportunities over the past year or so.

If he can put a good season in he'll be back in the premiership in absolutely no time whatsoever.

"Form is temporary, class is permanent" doesn't really apply to your average club player. He wasn't at the same level as guys like Robshaw, Brown, Care, etc
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Monte on Friday 21-Jun-2019, 13:03*
In my opinion he has to commit 100% as he did year he Captained Lv winning team
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: QuincyJones on Friday 21-Jun-2019, 19:55*
"Form is temporary, class is permanent" doesn't really apply to your average club player. He wasn't at the same level as guys like Robshaw, Brown, Care, etc

Lucky he's not an average club player then.

I agree he's not at the same level as Robshaw etc. now but there was certainly a time when he was and was being talked about by several pundits in terms of international selection.

Injuries do horrible things to confidence, mentality and ultimately form. I've no doubt he'll be back in the Premiership soon.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Gone on Friday 21-Jun-2019, 20:55*
Lucky he's not an average club player then.

I agree he's not at the same level as Robshaw etc. now but there was certainly a time when he was and was being talked about by several pundits in terms of international selection.

Injuries do horrible things to confidence, mentality and ultimately form. I've no doubt he'll be back in the Premiership soon.

He wonít. Itís over.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Brown Bottle on Friday 21-Jun-2019, 21:47*
He wonít. Itís over.

Just like Horwill. He never played again. Or...
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Saturday 22-Jun-2019, 01:27*
Just like Horwill. He never played again. Or...

Oh yeah, I remember someone mentioning that time and time and time again. Blucher was it?
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: JammyGit on Sunday 23-Jun-2019, 10:42*
Lucky he's not an average club player then.

I agree he's not at the same level as Robshaw etc. now but there was certainly a time when he was and was being talked about by several pundits in terms of international selection.

Injuries do horrible things to confidence, mentality and ultimately form. I've no doubt he'll be back in the Premiership soon.


Never being good enough for international rugby at your best, not a stand-out at club level for the majority of your career = average club player.

Virtually every player has been talked about in terms of international rugby at some point!
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Gone on Sunday 23-Jun-2019, 15:56*
Oh yeah, I remember someone mentioning that time and time and time again. Blucher was it?

This is the weirdest trolling ever. Yeah I speculated that Horwill was perhaps not going to make it back from injury after two years where he was injured a lot and the most recent injury where he was out for months with no word on his condition.

Then - lo and behold - he came back, played half a season and retired saying his body had given up.

Itís not quite the same as saying there would be £350m a week for the NHS and then there isnít.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Brown Bottle on Sunday 23-Jun-2019, 16:26*
We're just playing. :)
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: QuincyJones on Monday 24-Jun-2019, 14:17*
Never being good enough for international rugby at your best, not a stand-out at club level for the majority of your career = average club player.

Virtually every player has been talked about in terms of international rugby at some point!

That's not true. He WAS a stand-out at club level for a few consecutive seasons.

If you're not a fan, fine. He was an excellent quality player in his prime and if he stays fit, he'll be there again. I'll look forward to rubbing it in your face when he's picked up by a prem team! :)
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Quinky on Monday 24-Jun-2019, 20:07*
"Form is temporary, class is permanent" doesn't really apply to your average club player. He wasn't at the same level as guys like Robshaw, Brown, Care, etc

No other player is at the level of Robshaw.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: JammyGit on Monday 24-Jun-2019, 21:12*
That's not true. He WAS a stand-out at club level for a few consecutive seasons.

If you're not a fan, fine. He was an excellent quality player in his prime and if he stays fit, he'll be there again. I'll look forward to rubbing it in your face when he's picked up by a prem team! :)

You do realise I'm saying he's been an average club player for most of his career, therefore him playing club rugby wouldn't be at all disagreeing with what I'm saying?
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 09:44*
Are Blucherquin and Slinky related do you think?
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Quinky on Tuesday 25-Jun-2019, 12:01*
Are Blucherquin and Slinky related do you think?


We just happen to be able to talk sense a lot of the time... you should join us, Dangly? ;)
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Wednesday 26-Jun-2019, 09:55*
naff off big nose
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Quinky on Thursday 27-Jun-2019, 23:28*
naff off big nose

Comments like that will land you in front of the beak...
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: TomBuckQuin on Friday 28-Jun-2019, 09:24*
I used to think Top Gun would be by far the most beautifully homoerotic thing I'd ever witness. Quinky and Deadly's "banter" really does take my breath away though.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: marlowish on Friday 28-Jun-2019, 09:35*
This is the weirdest trolling ever. Yeah I speculated that Horwill was perhaps not going to make it back from injury after two years where he was injured a lot and the most recent injury where he was out for months with no word on his condition.

Then - lo and behold - he came back, played half a season and retired saying his body had given up.

Itís not quite the same as saying there would be £350m a week for the NHS and then there isnít.

Funny when I mooted that Clifford may never be a regular performer due to injury issues  I recall you making your usual snide comments - ah well

Not another Brexit comment - we all know you voted leave - many did not- this is not the place for yet another Brexit discussion it is a rugby forum.

Just because you keep on saying the same things about Brexit it does not mean anyone is listening.  Keep it for the bores in the Prince Blucher who want to have the exact same conversation a million times.  ( for the record I voted remain).
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Quinky on Friday 28-Jun-2019, 12:48*
I used to think Top Gun would be by far the most beautifully homoerotic thing I'd ever witness. Quinky and Deadly's "banter" really does take my breath away though.

Are you flirting?
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: TomBuckQuin on Friday 28-Jun-2019, 13:00*
Are you flirting?

Depends if you want me to be...
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: quinalan on Friday 28-Jun-2019, 21:38*
In my opinion, Wallace was a player who never really turned up. An ďout & out sevenĒ, who spent half the game nowhere near the breakdown. He had a good run when coming into the side at the start of our Premiership winning season, & in the LV cup win, but for me was way too inconsistent to hold down a first team jersey at Quins or any other Prem side.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Bolly-Quin on Saturday 29-Jun-2019, 00:31*
In my opinion, Wallace was a player who never really turned up. An ďout & out sevenĒ, who spent half the game nowhere near the breakdown. He had a good run when coming into the side at the start of our Premiership winning season, & in the LV cup win, but for me was way too inconsistent to hold down a first team jersey at Quins or any other Prem side.

Really? Did you ever see him play? I think your bias has stripped any facet of objectivity from your observation. Muppet.

Apologies.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 29-Jun-2019, 09:43*
Really? Did you ever see him play? I think your bias has stripped any facet of objectivity from your observation. Muppet.
Maybe 12.31 am is not a great time to post? Whatever happened to the value of critiquing ideas, not people?
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Gone on Saturday 29-Jun-2019, 10:08*
Maybe 12.31 am is not a great time to post? Whatever happened to the value of critiquing ideas, not people?

It was shot in the head in a dank multi-story carpark in 2016.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Bolly-Quin on Saturday 29-Jun-2019, 14:29*
To stick to critiquing ideas, I think that:-

In my opinion, Wallace was a player who never really turned up.

He was all around the ground for 5 years and led our LV team to cup victory - he won more than a few man-of-the-match awards and was often mentioned by many commentators with high praise, so I think your assertion that he "never really turned up" is incorrect.

An ďout & out sevenĒ, who spent half the game nowhere near the breakdown.

He tackled and poached away and won many turnovers - I think part of your thinking here possibly relates to the evident coaching decision to have him lurk occasionally on the wing and partly because you couldn't see him as he was in the thick of it under a ruck.

...but for me was way too inconsistent to hold down a first team jersey at Quins or any other Prem side.

For 5 years (2011-16) he was holding his place at Quins easily (7 tries in 2015/6) but, like much of the team, suffered under the later COS and Kingston years (2014-present) as most of the team ran around clueless at times. Following his injury, his form did drop (but, for example, his tackle completion was 92/94% for the last two season) and he has been shunted sideways with the advent of Clifford and Chisholm. He played for Saxons and for a non-capped England game.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace lon
Post by: KiltedQuin on Saturday 29-Jun-2019, 18:31*
Wallace is a quality player and has been unlucky over the last couple of seasons. First he had an horrendous injury in pre-season at LI. Mind you he recovered from a dislocated hip to play in the Big Game and did not let us down. This season he has been eclipsed by the arrival of Dombrandt, the return to fitness of Clifford and Semi-sonics form as an impact player. He his definitely Premiership standard, has given his all. And I wish him all the best in the future.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: Mayor West on Sunday 30-Jun-2019, 22:41*
I concur with Bolly and Kilted.
Title: Re: Luke Wallace
Post by: deadlyfrom5yardsout on Monday 01-Jul-2019, 17:43*
Wallace is a quality player and has been unlucky over the last couple of seasons. First he had an horrendous injury in pre-season at LI. Mind you he recovered from a dislocated hip to play in the Big Game and did not let us down. This season he has been eclipsed by the arrival of Dombrandt, the return to fitness of Clifford and Semi-sonics form as an impact player. He his definitely Premiership standard, has given his all. And I wish him all the best in the future.
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