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Title: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Matt72 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 14:55*
Premiership Rugby Cup - 3pm KO
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Matt72 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:10*
4 Mins: PEN Smith 0-3
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: MightyQ2 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:11*
Anyone have a link to an online stream for this game?
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: honkytonk on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:14*
In terms of qualification, I dont think a defeat really matters, Bristol losing to Exeter (who have picked their best side). 
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Matt72 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:14*
7 MINS: 5-3
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:15*
No I can't find anything covering the game.  Its now 5-3.  Landajo sent up a rubbish box kick that was collected and try Sarries.  Conversion missed.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:19*
10-3 as Spencer goes in under the posts.  Conversion is a gimme so it will be 12-3
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Matt72 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:19*
15 MIN: 12-3
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Matt72 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:25*
Exeter now winning 21-5
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:29*
Quins pretty rubbish so far. Like schoolboys playing adults. Pack completely underpowered.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:29*
Penalty from the breakdown.  Converted.  15-3
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: honkytonk on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:31*
Our second row worried me when the team was announced.  Esp with the two Sarries picked.  Evans and the choice of locks maybe a bad move by PG, but combinations being tried.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:36*
Browny try
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:37*
Smith conversion
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:38*
We are in Sarries half & win a penalty.  Kick to the corner and then mess up the line out.... Dear me when will we ever get the line out sorted? 

Another penalty, quick tap and Mike Brown goes over.  Converted.  15-10
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:39*
Pathetic.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:43*
22-10 :  A sarries kick out of their own in-goal area is collected, passed and then sprinted the length of the pitch for a try & conversion.   
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: honkytonk on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:46*
Is Lamb injured???  I honestly cannot remember a game that the bloke has not gone off injured (Eng U20s also).  Certainly takes some knocks!!!  If he is injured, hope he is ok.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:47*
Some really poor skills out there amongst the forwards. Very worrying.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:50*
22-13 - Penalty converted by Smith and its HT.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 15:55*
Difficult to see any of the second or back rows as first choice at the moment. Auterac very poor as well. Wasted a lot of money on a ticket so far. Whatever combinations we’re supposedly trying for this match, give up on them! Our second string appear - yet again, nothing changed from previous years - not to be up to it. Sarries second team light years better. Money well spent - well, technically overspent of course ...
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: honkytonk on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:01*
Im not there so cannot comment too much but, we have our 5/6 and 7th choice second row playing against an International pair.  The front row would be more of a worry, as would the back row but again, its (mainly) new players in new combinations.  Sarries are light years ahead of everyone, that is why they win everything.  If this stays as it is, 3 wins out of 4 and a place in the next round.  Not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: A222Quin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:03*
Im not there so cannot comment too much but, we have our 5/6 and 7th choice second row playing against an International pair.  The front row would be more of a worry, as would the back row but again, its (mainly) new players in new combinations.  Sarries are light years ahead of everyone, that is why they win everything.  If this stays as it is, 3 wins out of 4 and a place in the next round.  Not the end of the world.

Yeah that's how I'm looking at it. I'm becoming numb to any games against Globogym really.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:06*
Games re started
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:11*
Big Josh, who we let go, is having a good game. So too Skelton.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Matt72 on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:12*
COYQ
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:14*
28-12 in Exeter. 
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: J Scott on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:16*
Big Josh, who we let go, is having a good game. So too Skelton.
I was a little disappointed we let him go, I’m sure he’s going to develop very quickly into a great prop.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:16*
Pathetic yet again. 5 metre line out, planned move, maul held up (after going nowhere), turned over.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:18*
Resorting to a penalty kick at goal rather than trying another 5 metre lineout
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: stoquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:19*
So it looks like it will be Sarries in semi, hopefully we may have stronger team by then!
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:21*
The line out - who ever is at fault - has been a weakness for so long.  How can this not be the No 1 training priority?
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: A222Quin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:22*
The line out - who ever is at fault - has been a weakness for so long.  How can this not be the No 1 training priority?

It was fine last week with Symons and Lewies.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: RodneyRegis on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:23*
Score?
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:24*
Saracens have brought a couple of under 16s on. Still outpowering Quins.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:24*
22-16
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:25*
22-16 from that last penalty at the scrum.  Sarries penalty count must be racking up.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:27*
Lots of replacements now.  Dombrandt and Ellia are on but Sarries bring on Vinipola
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:28*
Now Saunders throws an interception to a PROP!
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Comet on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:29*
When I saw the line up is was worried about the power of their pack. Pleased Dombrandt is now on. He can provide some drive with his carrying power.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:31*
25-16 after a penalty at the scrum.  We are still in touching distance...
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:33*
35-12 at Exeter.  Pretty safe to say we have qualified and the outcome of this game is more about pride and whether we play the SF at home or not (I think).
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:33*
Error count huge, but some are from Sarries so let’s say the wet ball has something to do with it.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: BedfordshireBoy on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:34*
So it looks like it will be Sarries in semi, hopefully we may have stronger team by then!

On current scores,Sale still heading up the table containing Sarries.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Monte on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:38*
On current scores,Sale still heading up the table containing Sarries.
sale v Irish 22 - 22 according to BBC at present
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:40*
Evans throws the ball to the opposition ... another 3 points to them
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: stoquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:40*
Wins of groups Exeter, Quins and either sale or Sarries and whoever comes second in that group. So those 4 teams in current unknown order but we look like ranked 3rd unless we can sneak a win . COYQ
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:41*
Dear me...28-16 from yet another penalty...
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:42*
Come on Sale!
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Monte on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:43*
Wins of groups Exeter, Quins and either sale or Sarries and whoever comes second in that group. So those 4 teams in current unknown order but we look like ranked 3rd unless we can sneak a win . COYQ
Sale now winning 22-27
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:43*
Gabs try
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Bucksquin on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:44*
Gabs and Marcus the stand outs today.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:45*
Ibitoye goes over... Smith misses the conversion (he hits the post) 28-21
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:46*
Last 5 minutes of the game. 
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Comet on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:48*
Come on you Quins! One more try and let's get a draw!
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Monte on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:48*
I thought Codling was brought in to sort out line out?
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Jus-Quin-Time on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:50*
Not to be.  28-21 at FT.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: J Scott on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:52*
That is not a terrible result away to Sarries.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: DazzaS on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 16:53*
I think that means we are away to Exeter
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: BedfordshireBoy on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 17:08*
Sale v Sarries, Chiefs v Quins.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: T-Bone on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 17:54*
Not watched but final score not too bad away to a much stronger team unconstrained by salary cap considerations
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: SiB on Saturday 12-Oct-2019, 18:50*
Wouldn’t say that the Sarries team was much stronger
Would say on paper we had the better side
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: BWQuin on Sunday 13-Oct-2019, 20:32*
We certainly didn't deserve to win the game and from 5 minutes in I never thought we would, but we actually could have won it.

Landajo had a bit of a rough start, a couple of poor box kicks (one of which led to Segun's try) and a few early fumbles. He then settled down and set up Brown's try with a quick tap penalty and also made a try saving tackle. Baldwin was the most notable of the front rowers, he had a few good collisions with Ibuanokpe who displayed far more aggression than we ever saw from him. We lost one line-out, but it was on the Saracens 5m line! We seemed to keep the line-outs fairly simple and whilst not perfect they are much improved from what we saw against Bristol and London Irish.

The big difference was in the second row. Skelton and Isiekwe are two big units, they are hard to stop and are strong in defence. Lamb went off for a HIA just before half time and didn't return, unfortunately we didn't have the muscle to match. Robshaw and Lawday were solid and Evans appeared to become more frustrated as the game went on. Towards the end he won a fantastic turnover which was followed by his second handling error in quick succession.

Smith continues to look very good. His defence has improved, and no charge downs this week! Sarries also had the upper hand in the centres, Barritt continues to smash it up and Tomkins showed a few nice touches. Saili attempted a few offloads when it simply wasn't on and looked far more effective when he took the ball into contact and we recycled quickly.

Brown was excellent under the high ball in pretty poor conditions. I would have liked to have seen Ismaiel looking for the ball and popping up in midfield. He is big man but didn't get his hands on the ball enough. Ibitoye scored again (I'm not sure it would have been given with a TMO) and then had a few words with a couple of fans who were giving him a bit of chat earlier in the game. This was then followed up by him dropping the restart much to their amusement.

We had plenty of possession but just not in the right areas. Sarries' defence was very hard to break through and they scored a couple of excellent tries. For one of them they went the length of the field, easily the best I have seen this season.
 



   
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: Monte on Monday 14-Oct-2019, 12:53*
Thanks BW pleased to hear about lineout but locks worry me.
Title: Re: Saracens v Harlequins Match Thread
Post by: marlowish on Monday 14-Oct-2019, 12:59*
The line out - who ever is at fault - has been a weakness for so long.  How can this not be the No 1 training priority?
agree - it is a fiasco that this has been allowed to carry on for years