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Rugby => ComeAllWithin Board => Topic started by: honkytonk on Sunday 22-Nov-2020, 08:16*

Title: TRP
Post by: honkytonk on Sunday 22-Nov-2020, 08:16*
Tigers interested in Lynagh, but we will do all we can to keep him etc etc

We are interested in Wasps Lock Tim Cardell
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Archquin on Sunday 22-Nov-2020, 12:28*
We certainly need another decent lock
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: never sleep on Sunday 22-Nov-2020, 13:55*
I think that Lynagh will be behind Green in the pecking order now, so he may not get much game time.
I wouldn't blame him for leaving.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Quintron on Sunday 22-Nov-2020, 22:26*
We could sign Dan Carter in his prime & still be rubbish.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: honkytonk on Monday 23-Nov-2020, 07:40*
I think that Lynagh will be behind Green in the pecking order now, so he may not get much game time.
I wouldn't blame him for leaving.

Id be looking at Lynagh as a potential replacement for R Chisholm
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: poorfour on Monday 23-Nov-2020, 16:35*
Id be looking at Lynagh as a potential replacement for R Chisholm

Lynagh is only just out of school (literally - he was at Hampton until last year) and so I'd be very surprised if he has an expectation of breaking straight into the first team. I would guess that he will be being positioned as a replacement for Brown, which makes it a question of learning his trade and biding his time; Browny can't keep playing forever, much as we might want him to.

Green is more a utility back and I suspect we will have to see where he slots in. I wouldn't be totally surprised to see him alternating with Marchant at 13 long term; from what little we have seen of him there is some similarity in style.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Tonbridge Quin on Monday 23-Nov-2020, 22:38*
Just been this on Twitter

Tom , son of @LynaghMichael is set to follow in the footsteps of his father joining his new @Reds_Rugby team-mates mid next year on a two-and-a-half-year deal from @Harlequins
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: never sleep on Monday 23-Nov-2020, 22:57*
Who is Tom?
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: never sleep on Monday 23-Nov-2020, 23:05*
Just looked it up. Tom must be his younger brother.
Her is 17 and currently in our academy
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: honkytonk on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 10:00*
Lynagh is only just out of school (literally - he was at Hampton until last year) and so I'd be very surprised if he has an expectation of breaking straight into the first team. I would guess that he will be being positioned as a replacement for Brown, which makes it a question of learning his trade and biding his time; Browny can't keep playing forever, much as we might want him to.

Green is more a utility back and I suspect we will have to see where he slots in. I wouldn't be totally surprised to see him alternating with Marchant at 13 long term; from what little we have seen of him there is some similarity in style.

Fair point.  I was thinking that Chisholm would be around for another season or two, in which time Lynagh steps into that squad place.  When Brown (and Care) finally go, I would expect a "Big name" signing to come in, finance permitting
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Rocker on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 12:01*
Maybe the big band will be in another position. We're seemingly well stocked at 9 and 15. Maybe it's the back row that we desperately need? Pieter Steph du Toit?
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: honkytonk on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 12:45*
We do need a BR.  I still wonder if one is coming soon, The link to Di Carpentier is only for a short term deal.  Looking at the big picture and the squad, without knowing contract situation we could...

Lose

Baldwin - No need to replace. Plenty of good options at HK and come the end of this season the younger ones will be more experienced.
Money saved

Young - Would need replacing, with a better option
Outlay needed

Cavubatu - Likewise would need replacing but Tizzard/Hammond should be looking to step up
Money saved

Botta - A better option required.
Even

Landajo - With Steele and the new chap from NZ you could argue no replacement is needed.  We would still have Care and Stafford.
Money saved

Chisholm Snr - Green/Lynagh takes his pace in the squad
Money saved

Ashton - Good signing for us but once this season is done, I would look for a younger quality option
Possible outlay or evens at least

Campagnero - With the options we have, no replacement needed
Money saved

Care - If he goes, quality replacement
Evens

Brown - As Above

The above would leave a decent bit of cash free to sign a quality BR.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: KentQuin on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 14:38*
A statement signing like Du Toit would be undeniably exciting however, given our biggest issue is inconsistency, if we are going to splash the cash then I would argue that we should be looking at players who are going to be available for Quins week in, week out.

Covid aside, I'm not sure we have the finance to go down the  Bristol route (e.g. a Piatau, Luatua).

Would we not be better signing two or possibly three good quality premiership players instead of one superstar who misses a third of our games?

To my mind we need a few players to bolster the pack who, a bit like Robshaw, you can hang your hat on to give you at least a 7 out of 10 performance every single week without fail.

Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Twickersman on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 14:39*
I have seen a bit of Cardell on TV and he looks player with a great pedigree in U16, u17 England Rugby.

He is 6'4 and is listed as a back-rower. However, when he has played for Wasps he is a second row. He must be the lighter, athletic lock to be that size.

So could be a hybrid player, however not the big beast that we are crying out for. I still think Jason Jenkins from the Blue Bulls would be a good shout. He is a unit. Not any basis for the rumour, just think he could do a job for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYEmZhoEzfY
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 14:57*
Sounds Welsh, no ta.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Mayor West on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 17:29*
We need Eben Etzebeth. What’s he up to next season.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Twickersman on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 18:12*
He will be called away by Internationals and training camps all the time. We need players who are available to play in most games like Lewies has done. Not superstars who are over the hill.

Look at Sale with the Du Preez brothers. They have turbo charged Sale.
Title: Re: TRP
Post by: Yareet on Tuesday 24-Nov-2020, 18:15*
He will be called away by Internationals and training camps all the time. We need players who are available to play in most games like Lewies has done. Not superstars who are over the hill.

Look at Sale with the Du Preez brothers. They have turbo charged Sale.

And as a result, they were called up into the Boks squad 😢