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Title: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Now ex-Navyquin on Sunday 04-Nov-2018, 18:08*
Joe Marchant called up to the England squad, will certainly add another dimension to the 13 shirt if picked.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Sunday 04-Nov-2018, 19:29*
Congratulations to him!
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Now ex-Navyquin on Sunday 04-Nov-2018, 19:50*
Would you start him at 13 over Slade?
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: InsertQuinsPunHere on Sunday 04-Nov-2018, 20:01*
Missed the game yesterday so couldn't comment really. Have heard conflicting reports of Slade from people who I usually agree with. But I think marchant is class.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: RodneyRegis on Sunday 04-Nov-2018, 20:06*
Good for him. Sure he won't play but will be great experience.

He certainly wouldn't let anyone down if he did. Doesn't have any weaknesses for me, a slightly-less-talented GLowe.

All of England's current centres have glaring gaps in their games. Until JJ comes back I think the 13 shirt is up for grabs. I'd give it to Daly personally.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Gone on Sunday 04-Nov-2018, 20:45*
Would you start him at 13 over Slade?

I wouldnít let Slade anywhere near the team after his desperate performance on Sat.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Everyoneís a Quinner on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 02:03*
Well deserved
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Quins Head on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 08:26*
Nice to get the call up but I would be amazed if he gets selected for the team
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Gone on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 08:31*
Yeah I can't see any way he'll make the 25/23. We need the biggest centres possible against the ABs and Jones said Manu would be back.

Total guess but reckon he'll go Ford, Farrell, Te'o.

And putting it out there, but I also reckon he'll bring Brown back into the starting side and drop Nowell for Daly.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Banstead Quin on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 10:32*
I'm with you Blucher, Brown back in and he seems to want Manu at 13 as he had always played well against the All Blacks.

I think Marchant fits the England game plan well. He can defend and create and is always available. But, broken record time, Farrell at 12 kills any flair or creativity and the 13 just ends up trucking it up because he gets ball behind the gain line.  The only reason JJ looks so good is because he can create something in an empty room.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: T-Bone on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 12:14*
Well done to Joe. It should be a valuable experience for him whether he gets picked or not.

Is Joseph currently injured, or just out of favour. I think Saturday showed that Daly should be considered on the wing or 13, not 15. Quite a few options now at 13 when everyone's fit - Joseph, Slade, Tuilagi, Lozowski, now MArchant, and Daly should be considered there. 12 is the problem though. Te'o, Farrell and.....Francis?

I don't really get why Manu is only being considered as a 13, not 12. What does Te'o offer at 12 that Manu doesn't?
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Fearless Fred on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 12:21*
... What does Te'o offer at 12 that Manu doesn't?

The ability to play more than 2 games without breaking?
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Cookie on Monday 05-Nov-2018, 12:26*
Can't see him changing the Farrell-at-10 decision after one game. And definitely not against the ABs. Didn't think Slade had a bad game, but the Saffas targeted Daly with the high ball from minute one and he was found desperately wanting.

Would definitely have Brown back to shore things up. Daly probably to the wing in front of Nowell, although he tends to prefer one pace man and one grafter, so he might persevere with Daly at 15.

At 13, can't see how JM is going to get ahead of MT if he's fit. Thought Te'o was very impressive given how much rugby he's played this season, so another reason not to move Farrell.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: JammyGit on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 15:18*
Slade missed 7 tackles. That's a bad game.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Quinten Poulsen on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 17:25*
Doesn't Slade have a poor record in general for missing tackles for England? Maybe I'm imagining it but it seems to be a theme.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: JammyGit on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 18:07*
He does. He's usually good for one brainfart with the ball, too.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Now ex-Navyquin on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 18:18*
Looks like Mike Brown isn't in the squad for New Zealand.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: flapjack on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 18:27*
I didnít really think slade was all that bad, flew out the line a lot which did cause some of those missed tackles but also shut down the bok attack early a few times.
I would love so see Marchant in the 13 jersey though, shift Daly our to the wing in place of May and brown back to 15.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: JammyGit on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 18:41*
He was thrown aside by DDA and the other Bok backs on several occasions.

Dropping May, our most consistently good back, seems absolutely crazy to me. Is he injured?
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Brown Bottle on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 18:46*
Indeed. Daly over May? No thanks.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: flapjack on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 19:04*
May was great In SA and scores some good tryís but heís just fast and not a lot else, no rugby brain in his head just fast legs, Nowell is a workhorse in comparison and Daly has many more elements to his game.

Watch May a bit harder with England and you will start to see 70% of his game he doesnít do a lot makes a lot of mistakes, normally itís covered with a try or 2 so paste over the cracks.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: JammyGit on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 19:08*
Yeah uh I watch him a lot thanks, he stopped being a mistake machine about 2 years ago. He's one of the best we have under the high ball, he's started making excellent decisions with ball in hand, and he's started to use his pace and agility far more consistently. Like I said, he's consistently good for us and has been for some time.
Title: Re: Marchant called up to England
Post by: Gone on Tuesday 06-Nov-2018, 21:31*
May is superb. He also hasnít been dropped for Daly.