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ComeAllWithin Board / 4 Quins in England A team to play Ireland XV
« Last post by Brown Bottle on Yesterday at 02:21 pm »
England A Team

Interesting that Murley and Kenningham have been given a run.

15. Joe Carpenter (Sale Sharks, 1 cap)

14. Cadan Murley (Harlequins, 3 caps)

13. Luke Northmore (Harlequins, 2 caps)

12. Orlando Bailey (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)

11. Ollie Hassell-Collins (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)

10. Billy Searle (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)

9. Harry Randall (Bristol Bears, 14 caps)

1. Tarek Haffar (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)

2. Jamie Blamire (Leicester Tigers, 7 caps)

3. George Kloska (Bristol Bears, uncapped)

4. Ben Bamber (Sale Sharks, uncapped)

5. Joe Batley (Bristol Bears, uncapped)

6. Ethan Roots (C) (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps)

7. Jack Kenningham (Harlequins, uncapped)

8. Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins, 23 caps)


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16. Kepueli Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, uncapped)

17. Archie Van Der Flier (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)

18. Afolabi Fasogbon (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)

19. Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)

20. Fitz Harding (Bristol Bears, uncapped)

21. Raffi Quirke (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)

22. Charlie Atkinson (Gloucester Rugby, 1 cap)

23. George Hendy (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by Brown Bottle on Yesterday at 02:11 pm »
I was thinking that moving teh scrum 5m back works with the existing pitch markings. 10m obviously wouldn't. Attacking scrum on the 22?

Well, that's the the trouble, imho. It becomes a seemingly random response to what's happened.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by Rugbycat on Yesterday at 01:52 pm »
Will referees/TJs need set squares and compasses for number 5? They can't see a player joining a ruck from in front of the back foot so how will they judge 2 metres????

You could use automation for offsides, so why not just do that. Yes it would slow the game down a bit whilst players adjust but would be better in the long run.

Thanks for your post JEDZI, clearly shows that world rugby is still 2 different games and the opposing views aren't changing any time soon. I watch my daughters play at BUCS level and it isn't easy for you guys with the quality of TJs and trying to cover all bases.
Another very difficult to apply law, and making the refs life very difficult, I watch a lot of BUCS for the same reason, My daugther sent me this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3LwvZ_5MuA
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by Yareet on Yesterday at 01:41 pm »
If the ref's unsighted they'll ask the TMO, which they normally do anyway unless it's obvious.

Also, I think you'd need to move it a bit more than 5m back to make a difference.

I was thinking that moving teh scrum 5m back works with the existing pitch markings. 10m obviously wouldn't. Attacking scrum on the 22?
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by Brown Bottle on Yesterday at 01:33 pm »
Fully understand that.
They could have simply moved the scrum back 5m to make it a 10m scrum and then see it it changed behaviour.
The thing I really dislike is that someone goes over the line and due to the ref being unsighted, there is no certainty that a try was scored. So, the defending team gets a massive benefit in that they can just hoof the ball downfield.
The punishment against the attacking team is overly harsh.

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If the ref's unsighted they'll ask the TMO, which they normally do anyway unless it's obvious.

Also, I think you'd need to move it a bit more than 5m back to make a difference.
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: England's 6 Nations team for Wales
« Last post by MaidstoneQuin on Yesterday at 01:05 pm »
Feels like too much of a freebie, though? Could easily also cut his teeth off the bench while allowing Pollock to do his thing as a starter (he's certainly got the engine for it!)

I wouldn't say a freebie. He's been one of the seasons top 8s, and I think deserves crack, it wouldn't be like giving a debut just for the sake of it as such and it would be good to see alternatives at 8 ahead of the RWC, although he wouldn't make the bench over Pollock. I think Pollock is best atm as a bench option game changer as his energy could be more useful in the 60m mark onwards.  I'm just trying to avoid a scenario where after a few injuries he's making his debut against France in a grand slam decider
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: 6 Nations Prediction League is open!
« Last post by Fearless Fred on Yesterday at 01:03 pm »
Last call for the Prediction League! It's super simple to play & a lot of fun. You know you want to...
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by never sleep on Yesterday at 12:49 pm »
I think that law was less about scrums themselves and more about trying to reduce the volume relentless carrying attacks <5m from the line. Just massive blokes running into each other over and over and over, and if they are successfully defended they get to go again. Basically, Exeter's success forced the law change. I don't love it but my ideas on how to resolve the problem are much worse :D
Fully understand that.
They could have simply moved the scrum back 5m to make it a 10m scrum and then see it it changed behaviour.
The thing I really dislike is that someone goes over the line and due to the ref being unsighted, there is no certainty that a try was scored. So, the defending team gets a massive benefit in that they can just hoof the ball downfield.
The punishment against the attacking team is overly harsh.

For what it is worth, I am also not convinced about benefit of the 50-22.
I don't like the idea of converting scrums to free kicks. Free kicks very rarely benefit the attacking team. But, we rarely see the 5 second rule implemented and maybe a free kick for an "accident" is probably fair.
I do like the idea that players can't join the ruck after the "use it". (I have mentioned that on the board on previous threads.)
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by deadlyfrom5yardsout on Yesterday at 12:27 pm »
ffs leave scrums alone!!
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ComeAllWithin Board / Re: Super Rugby law trials
« Last post by T-Bone on Yesterday at 12:23 pm »
Don't like the 50:22 change. It will almost certainly lead to more kicking, not more room for attacking.

Free kicks instead of scrums for certain infringements I'm on the fence about. We shouldn't be repowering or removing the scrum. It's a key part of the game. However, they do take a very long time and you can end up with the team that infringes then benefitting from their superior scrum.

Not particularly fussed either way about the others
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