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For anyone that listens to the Eggchaser podcast their latest episode has an interesting Harlequins sub-plot.

The three presenters went for beers with Paul Gustard in Paris last weekend. He spoke "off record" at some length about rugby including his time at Quins.

One of the points discussed is how every player he spoke about was accompanied by how much they were earning or how much of the salary cap he took up.

They didn't name the player but someone at Quins was earning 6 x what Alex Dombrant was when he arrived at Quins yet was offering much lower value on the pitch.

I think Dommers arrived in 2018 (after Easter had retired) - who was our No8 at the time? Or perhaps this was another player....

Mark Evans thinks Gustard's recruitment (Esterhazen, Green etc) was the basis of our Prem win, if not the coaching. Apparently, Gustard had to get rid of many contracts that Kingston had signed that weren't beneficial to the club.

Interesting stuff.
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I wouldn't take it to mean specifically a back rower.
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Quote from: thatchapcarnell on Monday 05-Feb-2024, 13:53*
For anyone that listens to the Eggchaser podcast their latest episode has an interesting Harlequins sub-plot.

The three presenters went for beers with Paul Gustard in Paris last weekend. He spoke "off record" at some length about rugby including his time at Quins.

One of the points discussed is how every player he spoke about was accompanied by how much they were earning or how much of the salary cap he took up.

They didn't name the player but someone at Quins was earning 6 x what Alex Dombrant was when he arrived at Quins yet was offering much lower value on the pitch.

I think Dommers arrived in 2018 (after Easter had retired) - who was our No8 at the time? Or perhaps this was another player....

Mark Evans thinks Gustard's recruitment (Esterhazen, Green etc) was the basis of our Prem win, if not the coaching. Apparently, Gustard had to get rid of many contracts that Kingston had signed that weren't beneficial to the club.

Interesting stuff.

It's not that shocking, as far as I can see.

Although he wasn't officially in the academy, Dombrandt could well have been on a similar level of cash in his first year give he came straight from uni. I seem to remember academy contracts are typically around £25,000.

Assuming that's correct, I can well believe that a player was on £150,000 but not performing to Dombrandt's level.
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Hadn't considered that, Yareet. Good point.
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I’m just pleased he moved on and got what he wanted “to be part of a group where there was a clear vision, a deep level of trust, and a dynamic environment driven towards high goals.”  Whatever that meant. 
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Gustard's recruits were in a bottom of the table when he got summarily fired.
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I’d say Catrakillis was probably on a wedge. If it was someone underpforming it could well be him, or maybe Ismael (sp?)
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Quote from: Yareet on Monday 05-Feb-2024, 14:11*
It's not that shocking, as far as I can see.

Although he wasn't officially in the academy, Dombrandt could well have been on a similar level of cash in his first year give he came straight from uni. I seem to remember academy contracts are typically around £25,000.

Assuming that's correct, I can well believe that a player was on £150,000 but not performing to Dombrandt's level.

I remember John Kingston saying similar. Once he found out how much players were earning - which he didn't know until he was DoR - it put a very different perspective on their value.

Also Mark Evans saying that getting a really good player straight from the academy was the whole point as you got a couple of years out of them for peanuts.
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I love this podcast and have been listening for years, I would have loved to have been a 'fly on the wall' when they were chatting with Gustard. His time at Quins didn't ultimately work out but his recruitment is some of the best since I have been supporting the club - Andre, Greene, Wilco, David etc. There have been many a player who has arrived with fireworks in the last decade or so who just hasn't worked out We are good at growing our own but the recruitment has been pretty dodgy at times.................
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Quote from: FatQuin on Monday 05-Feb-2024, 15:00*
I’m just pleased he moved on and got what he wanted “to be part of a group where there was a clear vision, a deep level of trust, and a dynamic environment driven towards high goals.”  Whatever that meant.

I spent 20 years working for and with a few US IT companies and we would have regarded that as the clearest executive message we'd ever heard.
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The Patreon podcast suggests Lynagh and Bothma have some interesting stories...
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Quote from: thatchapcarnell on Tuesday 06-Feb-2024, 11:14*
The Patreon podcast suggests Lynagh and Bothma have some interesting stories...

Care to expand?
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Quote from: noah_jo on Tuesday 06-Feb-2024, 12:43*
Care to expand?

I would if I could - they kept their cards close to their chest. Just that Gustard spoke about those two specifically (and I think the inference was negatively).

Bothma was basically injured the entire time or was a walking penalty machine.

Don't really know what his issue with Lynagh could be - seems to work hard etc...
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Quote from: thatchapcarnell on Tuesday 06-Feb-2024, 13:15*
I would if I could - they kept their cards close to their chest. Just that Gustard spoke about those two specifically (and I think the inference was negatively).

Bothma was basically injured the entire time or was a walking penalty machine.

Don't really know what his issue with Lynagh could be - seems to work hard etc...
Bothma looked good in the few appearances he made between broken arms but clearly fell out of favour.

Regardless of his talents, Gustard appears to be a highly divisive character who rubs a lot of people up the wrong way. In the case of players it looked like most of them didn't want to be there when he was in charge and as a result we couldn't buy a win.
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Gustard also rates Owen Farrell at the best England 10.

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