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Re: Army v Navy Twickenham
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Being ex-Army (24 years) I too agree that the minority let both sides down. Military police, both RMP and Shore Patrol, attend on duty in support of the Met but mostly inside the stadium. It does appear that they have been less 'vigorous' in later years compared to earlier no nonsense responses, possibly due to complaints from non-serving personnel getting caught up? Before the event serving personnel are warned any arrested will be on Courts Martial so I do wonder if it is ex-members causing a lot of the trouble? Also many serving will arrive on coaches and never leave the stadium confines. Food for thought.
I'm also ex RN (24 years served) and am also appalled by the behaviour of some people attending this game as it has got bigger
I have attended many times on coach trips from ships and shore bases and stayed in the confines of the ground so have been unaware of the carnage in town. Unfortunately in recent years the behaviour of some of the coach parties at Fleet services leaves a lot to be desired especially service units coming from the West Country
A lot of pubs and clubs in the Portsmouth area run trips now and many people use it as an excuse to get hammered first thing in the morning instead of a beer with breakfast and then a couple of sociable drinks on the trip up and then trawl the car park looking for old shipmates (in my case very old!!)
One good aspect of the game is the passion with which the National Anthem is sung

Re: Army v Navy Twickenham
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it's a bit like the boat race and varsity match . two meaningless teams compete against each other ina meaningless fixture causing chaos and carnage unnecessarily for local residents

Re: Army v Navy Twickenham
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it's a bit like the boat race and varsity match . two meaningless teams compete against each other ina meaningless fixture causing chaos and carnage unnecessarily for local residents

Aren’t all teams and sports matches meaningless unless you have a vested interest? So unless you’ve been part of the service community I guess you’ll never understand the rivalry. The carnage I’m with you completely unnecessary.
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Re: Army v Navy Twickenham
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it's a bit like the boat race and varsity match . two meaningless teams compete against each other ina meaningless fixture causing chaos and carnage unnecessarily for local residents
To some people, obviously not on here, Harlequins v Saracens is "two meaningless teams compete against each other in a meaningless fixture", for some people sport is meaningless! The same charge could be laid against the recent Leeds United v Manchester United football match which required 900 police to keep some sort of order. Sport has so many benefits, both physical and mental, that it can never be regarded as meaningless at any level from school level to World Cup.
Sadly though, chaos and carnage does occur at many fixtures (and not just sporting) largely because of a lack of respect in many of todays society.

Re: Army v Navy Twickenham
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Was told on Saturdays ENG/IRE match, this year will be the last Army/Navy at Twickenham

That may be true but they’ve been saying that for about the last 10 years, so while it might happen it also might not.

Re: Army v Navy Twickenham
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Have moved round to Hampton Court now but when I lived in Twick this game and the 7s were an absolute nightmare. Town centre after was an absolute disgrace. Next day, despite efforts, wasn’t much better either. People hammered and asleep in doorways. Used to be good events but became excuses to get mullered as quick as is possible

Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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It never used to be like this. I remember going to this match in the early 70's Most spectators where WW2 veterans.
It was a great social occasion and standard of behaviour good. It is evident that the popularisation of this event has bought with it poor behaviour. But wait a minute - is it not the case that service men are under military rules even when not in uniform? It is the fault of the top brass that this has been allowed to happen.

Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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It never used to be like this. I remember going to this match in the early 70's Most spectators where WW2 veterans.
It was a great social occasion and standard of behaviour good. It is evident that the popularisation of this event has bought with it poor behaviour. But wait a minute - is it not the case that service men are under military rules even when not in uniform? It is the fault of the top brass that this has been allowed to happen.

I'm sure not all the trouble is caused by current serving personnel so a bit of a leap to blame it all on the top brass.
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Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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Yeah frankly the ones who cause the trouble generally don’t look like they could fit in the uniform - and as you say, serving personnel would be in the poop because there are MPs around on the day.

(Not members of parliament, they’re too busy on pornhub)

Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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I would wonder what percentage of the attendants are serving members - more likely most are former soldiers or family/friends.

Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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It never used to be like this. I remember going to this match in the early 70's Most spectators where WW2 veterans.
It was a great social occasion and standard of behaviour good. It is evident that the popularisation of this event has bought with it poor behaviour. But wait a minute - is it not the case that service men are under military rules even when not in uniform? It is the fault of the top brass that this has been allowed to happen.

The serving soldiers and sailors do get arrested and disciplined if they step out of line some even get sent to the glasshouse.

As has been said a lot of the issues come from Ed serving and civilians who’ve never served.

We are only expected around 60,000 this year so hope it’s well. The Army and Navy rugby communities love this fixture and really want to keep it at Twickers. I hope it goes well.

And of course that the Army win

Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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Sadly not for me this year have a great day. Strong sides named so should be a cracker.
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Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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Yeah frankly the ones who cause the trouble generally don’t look like they could fit in the uniform - and as you say, serving personnel would be in the poop because there are MPs around on the day.

(Not members of parliament, they’re too busy on pornhub)

Boris is starring on pornhub now? I bet he claims it's a work meeting.

Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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Boris is starring on pornhub now? I bet he claims it's a work meeting.

Yeah someone said it was where you could see lots of ***** there so he thought he’d fit in.
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Re: OT - Army v Navy Twickenham - 30/4/22
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Just watched the Highlights on BFPS TV. Seemed a really good game. Big shout out To Sapper Jack Johnson the playmaker for the Army.  Has also played for Medway this season, my old club. Really thrilled to see all his hard work pay off. Well Done Jack!